Will European social democracy survive?

by on October 30, 2006 at 1:46 pm in Economics | Permalink

Here is my essay over at CrookedTimber.  Here is the whole symposium, which is on Sheri Berman’s new book on social democracy.  Part II will be up tomorrow, with Matt Yglesias and Brad DeLong, among others.

6 comments

bob montgomery October 30, 2006 at 3:07 pm

Tyler, the link you posted in the comments over there is broken.

Rue Des Quatre Vents October 30, 2006 at 6:48 pm

You respect your philosophical opponents too much. I wish you weren’t so avuncular sometimes. If you were debating slavery with an ancient athenian or a southern cavelier, would show respect for their views by claiming that abolition will mean the disintegration of a way of life you love?

Barkley Rosser October 30, 2006 at 10:44 pm

Hmmm, kind of lumping all the western Europeans together
here are we?

Actually in France and some of the Scandinavian countries
the birth rates have been picking up again at least somewhat.
The lesson seems to be more social democracy, particular
solid child support, unlike Germany and some of the Med
countries, where birth rates are especially low.

Also, the riff on growth is off, again for the Nordics, as
noted in previous threads. You have overstated how far behind
they are, Tyler. Indeed, Norway is ahead of the US right now,
which is not all just oil, and Denmark is just behind the US.
So for much of western Europe, the way out may be more social
democracy along Nordic lines.

Steve Sailer October 31, 2006 at 2:05 am

Thanks. Well said.

I gave up about half way through the comments. While there are serious-minded social democrats like John Quiggin, most just seem to be in it to feel morally superior.

You might find interesting this article from Der Spiegel on the emergence of a white welfare underclass in Europe:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,442649,00.html

Like you, I think, I’d attribute the relatively more healthy character of the white working class (the lower crime, illegitimacy, and drunkeness rates) in America to more religion and less welfare:

http://www.vdare.com/Sailer/050410_ruin.htm

Shaun October 31, 2006 at 5:33 am

Joan,

I see the French reproductive figure quoted a lot. Are these numbers including the number of children that North African immigrants (and 1st and 2nd generation) are having?

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