Find it here, the conclusion is that Hispanics are following traditional immigration patterns and do not represent an outlier, as suggested by Samuel Huntington.
The latest data on Hispanic assimilation
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Shocking.
Give it a minute.
The paper mainly deals with Hispanics’ knowledge of English. But is this assimilation?:”This disparity diminishes among Hispanics born in the United States who have foreign-born parents: 31 percent identify themselves as American while 43 percent describe themselves as their country of ancestry. By the third generation, the proportion of respondents choosing American as their primary identifier is a small majority (56 percent), and only 23 percent describe themselves primarily in terms of their ancestral country.” I would describe the fact that 43% of the second generation do not consider themselves Americans as worrisome at best.
“Sizable parts of are so abandoned that they are slowly being taken over by forest.”
Immigration from Southern blacks causes forestation?
I do have to say, though, in the case of Southern blacks, it strikes as kinda harsh to forcibly migrate a group of people to your country, then forbid them to migrate internally. But hey, I’m funny that way.
Lots of impressive economic reasoning going on in response to my comment!
A currently third generation hispanic is probably roughly 30 something. That means their parents likely were born in the 1950′s. That means their grandparents immigrated in the 1930′s or 1940′s. Does the immigration situation of the 1940′s or 1950′s compare to that of today?
Oh, I’d say your comment is getting exactly the response it merits.
The upside to vast unskilled migration is pretty small and the downside is pretty big.
So the US did not benefit from the vast unskilled migration of the 1800′s?
Well, El Paso’s murder rate is lower than many a whiter town, so does that mean we oughta be making some trades?
Keith,
You may want to look at some other number such as the 7% unemployment rate. Or that all of the public high schools except one are below average for Texas. Or just look at money magazine of livability. El Paso is definitely not at the top. Once again, maybe you can point out some entrepreneurs who have moved there for the tremendous economic opprotunity afford by unlimited immigration.
Huntington smack down alert!
In my classes at Berkeley, it’s almost a sickening pleasure to Bash Sam Huntington.
On page 46 the authors include the caveat that “much” of the data presented excludes consideration of illegal immigrants. I think that’s a pretty serious flaw in the paper. A lot of the arguments are based on survey data of how people feel about various topics, I am not sure how much weight I would give this. I would care a lot more about high school and college graduation rates and rate of use of public services as measures of assimilation.
Basically, Superdestroyer has impressed me by coming up with an argument even lamer than Schaeffer’s.
When confronted with evidence that El Paso has lower crime (and illegitimacy) than the vast majority of American cities, and El Paso’s Hispanics have far lower rates of important social pathologies than rural whites, Superdestroyer says immigration is bad because El Paso isn’t the Hamptons.
Yes, immigrants from Mexico don’t immediately buy a Penthouse in Midtown Manhattan when they come over. Instead, they just raise families in a blue collar, safe, and morally upright environment.
Keith,
All the data you provided was to show a low murder rate. If you look at other data, the larceny rate in El Paso is very high. You did not supply any legitimacy rate data with your references. All you basically showed is that El Paso has a lower crime rate than cities with a larger black population.
If you believe that the Hispanic population does not have a large number of pathologies, you must have never been to El Paso.
The reason that a franchise selling homepage would be big on El Paso is that the algorithim they used says it is a good place to set up a franchise. What they fail to look at it the large number of business failures that have already occurred there.
Like I said, when you can point out (non-Hispanci) people moving to El Paso for the economic opprotunity, then you can claim that unlimited immigration is a good thing. Yet, when one sees the middle class whites moving away from the border and to other areas, one should be able to figure out that unlimited immigration is hard on quality of life issues.
Auburn-Opelika on the above “best city for enterpreneurs” is another data point in Keith’s favor. It has become a “best city for enterpreneurs” just as the Hispanic population has increased. The whole place sometimes looks like a boom town out of the history books. Everytime I go back there (usually once or twice a year) to visit there’s like 50 new businesses of all kinds.
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