Good News

by on January 4, 2009 at 4:19 pm in Current Affairs | Permalink

My chances of winning the John Bates Clark Medal just doubled. Oh wait, I am over 40. Damm…it’s still zero. Still, if you are an economist under the age of 40, your chances just doubled since the executive committee of the AEA has voted to make it an annual rather than a biennial award.

apotheon January 4, 2009 at 4:49 pm

Good news! Your chances have doubled!

2 x 0 = 0

Your chances can double and still be zero. Just don’t try dividing anything by your chances of winning, and you should be fine.

liberalarts January 4, 2009 at 5:17 pm

Definite dilution.

Harkins January 4, 2009 at 6:30 pm

It’s a meta-Keynesian prize inflation to stimulate the economists.

Bob Murphy January 4, 2009 at 6:46 pm

I realize Alex was kidding about the doubling, but it’s probably not even true for the 30-something faculty member. For one thing, if some hotshot 25-year-old under the old rules had a 55% probability of winning it, then obviously his or her probability didn’t just double.

And as others have suggested, if the extra award induces more people to become economists…

David R. Henderson January 4, 2009 at 8:14 pm

Martin,
How much do you charge? I might be interested?
David

Martin Saavedra January 4, 2009 at 10:30 pm

David,

If you are David Henderson, the research fellow at the Hoover Institution, then I won’t charge much. I am in the market for a full-time RA position starting this summer (continuing for one to two years). I can also work on an hourly basis if it can be done from Washington D.C. E-mail me at 58saavedra@cua.edu if you are interested.

Best,
Martin Saavedra

Timothy January 5, 2009 at 12:56 am

This will reduce (though not halve) the famed percentage of John Bates Clark Medal winner who go on to win the Nobel Prize, which, once the trend becomes clear, may devalue the JBC Medal. Currently its signalling properties are a major part of its prestige.

flyfishr January 5, 2009 at 8:09 am

The chances increased by the factor (2 – p), where p is the old chance of winning when the award was given out every two years.

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If your chance of winning the award when it is awarded is p, and it is only awarded every two years, then your chance of winning in a two-year interval is p.

If it is awarded every year, and you can only win once, then your chance of winning in a two-year interval is p + (1-p)*p = 2*p – p^2. (p is the chance of winning in the first year; (1-p)*p is the chance of not winning in the first year, but winning in the second year.) This is 2 – p larger than your chances of winning when the award is given once every two years, provided p is not equal to zero.

(You should divide, not subtract, to see how much the probability increased.)

Jared January 5, 2009 at 2:15 pm

To continue beating a dead horse:

Holding the probability of winning the award each award cycle constant, the total likelihood of winning the award over one’s eligible time frame is:

s = 1 – (1 – p)^n

where p is the probability of winning in a given cycle, and n is the number of cycles over one’s eligible time frame (this is just a restatement of Michael’s summation above).

If we double the number of cycles in the eligible time frame, we get:

s2 = 1 – (1 – p)^2n

And the ratio of these:

R = s2/s

is the object of consideration. For starters, we can see that as n and p increase, R approaches (and ultimately equals) 1. So for very young, very talented economists, this change has between very little and no effect. But what about everybody else?

Well, R is undefined at n=0. So in that sense, Alex’s chances of winning are a trivial case. But what about the generic new, budding economist? R is, of course, decreasing in p, and the limit of R as p approaches 0 is 2 irrespective of n. The question, of course, is how close to that limit a particular economist is. Let’s use Alex back when he got his PhD in 1994. In the original JBC medal schedule, he had six shots at the medal. He’d get 12 shots under the new schedule. So we have:

R = [1 - (1 - p)^12]/[1 - (1 - p)^6]

So if most new PhD economists have between very little and absolutely no chance of winning the JBC medal in any given round (say, p=0.01), and n is somewhere between, oh, 5 and 8, then the new economist’s chances increase somewhere between 92 and 95 percent. If one thinks that a new economist’s chances of winning in any given round are even lower, Alex’s statement improves in accuracy.

In short, while Alex’s off-the-cuff comment was imprecise, it is not an unreasonable characterization of the change in total lifetime probability, given the assumption that p is invariant to n. If benid’s point is that a change in the regularity of issuing the JBC medal may influence economists’ behavior (and thus their chances of winning in a given cycle), it is well taken, and requires some explicit model of p itself.

justice January 8, 2009 at 10:29 am

I just returned from the meetings. Word there was that this decision was made because of what happened during the last decision process. I guess some people were incensed that John List did not win the JBC medal last time. Proponents of an annual award used that as a springboard to argue that there are at least 2 people every other year who are deserving so why not give it to them. The List rule may not help List himself, but it will help future economists like Alex.

lv handbag September 24, 2010 at 5:01 am

Not really, the Pentagon awarded a number of medal higher than the numbers of soldier in the Gulf War. Based on a study that says that people dont care if everybody has one

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