Clay Shirky on knock-offs

by on October 20, 2009 at 9:48 am in Economics | Permalink

Nokia products say "Made in China" on the back. Chinese-made Nokia-knockoffs say "Made in Finland.

Hat tip goes to Eric Barker on Twitter.  Here is Eric on the worst man in history, namely you.

1 IWantCookieNow October 20, 2009 at 10:34 am

I would consider it likely that modern man has offsetting qualities, like for example intelligence.

2 Bill October 20, 2009 at 11:33 am

Monitoring knock off prices is a way that a manufacturer can monitor the value of its brand. Mark Bergen, a marketing Prof at the U of Mn and a collaborator in London tracked the price of knock off (counterfeit) products sold on London street corners. They found that a decline in the price of brand specific (counterfeit) knock off products was an indicator of the brand value, and was also responsive to increases in advertising by the brand holder. Monitoring counterfeit product prices can be an early indicator of the declining or increasing value of the brand.

3 Laserlight October 20, 2009 at 11:43 am

“Googling says Roman legion marching speed was 20 Roman miles (29.5km) in 5 hours per day”–that’s five “summer” hours, which would be longer than 5 hours of 60 minutes. (How much longer? Depends on the latitude)

4 fusion October 20, 2009 at 12:16 pm

My Nokia phones do not have any “made in” info on the back. The “made in” info is under the battery – you have to remove the back and the battery to see the info. The first Nokia phone I looked at was made in Mexico.

5 David Heigham October 20, 2009 at 1:12 pm

Random pedantry.

Modern humanity tends to be bigger and stronger than our immediate ancestors. In prehistory, I would have been the worst man; not in history.

We infer Roman legion marching speeds from the engineering of their roads. It is the day in, day out average speed they counted on; and it is pretty near equal to the speeds Napoleon counted on where there were reasonable roads. I doubt if the Athenians in the phalanx at Marathon did better.

6 Bernard Yomtov October 20, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Turning to the high jump, McAllister said photographs taken by a German anthropologist showed young men jumping heights of up to 2.52 meters in the early years of last century.

Excuse me. Is this based on actual statements and measurements by the anthropologist, or inferred from photographs? If the latter it’s highly dubious.

I doubt the height of the crossbar was precisely measured, and if the requirement was just to jump your own height, then why 2.52 meters? Were these guys 8+ feet tall? Also, it’s not clear that film speeds and photographic equipment were such then as to permit precise photographs of high jumpers. You could use some sort of stroboscopic setup, I guess, but that’s unlikely to be have been practical.

7 Careless October 20, 2009 at 11:23 pm

high-end Nokia phone are stlll made in Finland,

Indeed.

8 Nina de Puy Kamp November 6, 2009 at 2:11 pm

Clay Shirky is so great. Watch this amazing interview with Laura Flanders on GRITtv. He spoke about the way everyday citizens can use the same technology that brings us videos of a kitten on a treadmill to achieve results that strengthen and spread democracy and engagement around the world. SOO fascinating.

9 Buy Xanax February 24, 2010 at 6:26 am

I mentioned Shirky’s “cognitive surplus” talk to my 72 year-old mother back when people started talking about that entry in April. Her unprompted response: “What’s the big deal? Isn’t it obvious?”
I’ll admit I like Clay’s “mouse” story, and he presents it well, but she’s correct to say that people wasting time in front of the television instead of being productive is neither a new observation nor a brilliant one.

10 Purchase Tramadol April 22, 2010 at 5:57 pm

Tyler, could you post a link to the paper? Thanks.

11 Buy Phentermine December 17, 2010 at 7:08 am

David Heigham,thanks.I found your comment most useful for my analytic report,thanks again.

12 Buy Valium No Prescription March 1, 2011 at 7:40 am

Yes,yes China is going on))

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