# Bounty hunter markets in everything?

on July 18, 2013 at 4:00 am

The farming and ranching town of Deer Trail, Colorado, is considering paying bounties to anyone who shoots down a drone.

Next month, trustees of the town of 600 that lies on the high plains, 55 miles (34km) east of Denver, will debate an ordinance that would allow residents to buy a \$25 hunting licence to shoot down “unmanned aerial vehicles”.

…”We don’t want to become a surveillance society,” he [Phillip Steel, the architect of the proposal] told Reuters in a telephone interview.

He said he had not seen any drones, but that “some local ranchers” outside the town limits had.

Under the proposal, hunters could legally shoot down a drone flying under 1,000 feet with a 12-gauge or smaller shotgun.

The town would also be required to establish a drone “recognition programme” for shooters to properly identify the targeted aircraft.

“In no case shall a citizen engage an obviously manned aerial vehicle,” the draft proposal reads.

It is admitted that the idea is a symbolic one and may not pass.  But perhaps teachers in particular should be encouraged to participate?  The story is here, via Michelle Dawson.

1 Rahul July 18, 2013 at 5:57 am

What range would a 12 gauge have, especially fired upwards against gravity? Even assuming they allowed a rifled slug instead of typical shot.

1000 feet vertical height sounds generously optimistic.

2 Cliff July 18, 2013 at 11:05 am

About 200 yards is probably the maximum accurate range.

I’m not an expert but I’d have some concern about where those slugs would end up.

3 JWatts July 18, 2013 at 5:58 pm

H = V^2/2g (height = velocity Squared / 2 times gravity)

So, assuming the muzzle velocity of the shotgun is 1560 fps (I had know idea they made shotguns with that high a muzzle velocity):

1560^2/2*32=38,025 feet
But of course that’s in a vacuum, so YMMV.

However, air friction will slow the spin and cause the bullet to tumble before it goes very far. Practically speaking, I imagine you’d have to be very lucky to hit something at 1,000 feet, but it’s possible. The Vietnamese hit American aircraft that were flying at 1,500 feet using ancient rifles with a lower muzzle velocity than that.

4 NPW July 19, 2013 at 9:50 am

Shotgun slugs and bullets have significantly different ballistics.

5 NPW July 18, 2013 at 7:33 am

Using my bolt action shotgun with a rifled barrel, I can reliably hit a 6 in diameter target at 200 yards. This is about the edge of the usefulness of a shotgun in the hands of an average shooter. Someone with time and money to practice might be able to get the grouping smaller, but the accuracy drops off quickly. Gravity affects the round over time, so direction (horz vs vert) means little.

6 Benny Lava July 18, 2013 at 7:58 am

More evidence of a Luddite reaction.

7 anon July 18, 2013 at 8:03 am

perhaps teachers in particular should be encouraged to participate

Yeah, so they can abject to gun violence.

8 Ray July 18, 2013 at 8:33 am

Colorado has some of the best property rights in the country, but even they have codified an exception for excluding aircraft from your air space.

9 Rahul July 18, 2013 at 8:36 am

I forget what state it was, but somewhere out west ranchers and farmers were protesting US-EPA’s plans to snoop on farm-pollution into water-bodies using airplanes. Drones will probably make them hate the EPA even more.

10 mw July 18, 2013 at 8:39 am

Clearly Coloradans are gonna suck at this compared to the soon-to-come drone-based drone bounty hunters. And once that happens, those bounty hunting jobs are never coming back.

11 Chris S July 18, 2013 at 9:07 am

MR post in 2017: ZMP conventional drone bounty hunters?

12 Whatever July 18, 2013 at 9:55 am

I am thinking their next paper airplane contest might be interesting.

13 Boonton July 20, 2013 at 6:28 am

How will Tyler reconcile his implicit support for this with his belief that vague ‘regulation’ is keeping ‘Tacocopter’ from being introduced by the free market? Can I shoot down Tacocopter and take its tacos? If so how about the pizza delivery guy whose at about the same level of intelligence?

If we are only objecting to surveillance then what about shooting out the driverless Google car taking pictures for its street view? A shotgun would have considerably more effect there.

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