Assorted Wednesday links

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1 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 1:03 pm

7. The end of Communism and Europe as a cold war battlefield was a great boon, it is even likely that the development of the EU and its institutions also greatly reduced such violence.

But now Terrorism has become something else again, no longer a matter of civil war but something more akin to alien attack. Explain why this will not in the end result in something more akin to the fate of say the Ivory Coast or the old bad Europe of expulsions and pogroms?

2 IVV March 23, 2016 at 1:21 pm

Given the overrepresentation of the UK and Spain in the 70s, I’d imagine that was all/mostly IRA and ETA. That felt like a different problem, as it would have been from a “people within,” instead of a “people without.”

Makes me wonder about the rest, though.

3 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 1:32 pm

MAFIA, and Red Brigades, but 1985 is interesting, I suspect it involves Beirut, and 1974 is Abu Nidal and TWA 841

4 Jeff R. March 23, 2016 at 2:11 pm

It’s worth noting the IRA had been a thorn in the side of the UK for a long time, it’s grievances were well known, and by the 1970’s the conflict was clearly on the wane, as compared to the violence of, say, Cromwell’s era. Rather a different situation in Europe today. What grievances do the Muslim inhabitants of Molenbeek have against the people of their adopted homeland? Terrorism of today just seems more random, purposeless, and stupid.

5 Lord Action March 23, 2016 at 2:14 pm

They’re angry because Europe invaded Iraq, continues to launch drone strikes, and refuses to close Guantanamo. Oh wait, they’re not…

6 Horhe March 23, 2016 at 3:02 pm

„This is how Sheikh Abu-Bakr Naji, the late theoretician of the Sunni version of the Islamo-apocalyptic movement, put it: “No one should feel safe without submitting, and those who refuse to submit must pay a high price. The aim of our movement is to turn the world into a series of wildernesses in which only those under our rule enjoy security.”
According to the sheikh, in a world dominated by “Crusaders,” it is not possible to create a proper Islamic state in a single country. He cites as example the Taliban government in Afghanistan. Although a proper Islamic regime, it did not survive “infidel” attacks and opposition by Afghan elements. The Islamic movement must become global, fighting everywhere, all the time, and on all fronts. He wants neo-jihadis to create an archipelago of “wildernesses” in non-Muslim countries, especially in the West, turning them into parallel societies alongside existing ones. They do not set up formal governments that could be vulnerable to economic pressure or even military attack.
But they could also exist within cities, under the noses of the authorities, operating as secret societies with their own rules, values and enforcement mechanisms.
The “wilderness” will provide cover for operational bases. Jihad would be everywhere rather than in just one or two countries that the “infidel” could hit with superior firepower.
The sheikh recommends “countless small operations” that render daily life unbearable rather than a few spectacular attacks such as 9/11. The idea is that the “infidel,” leaving his home every morning, should not be sure whether he would be alive in the evening.
The sheikh believed that, if subjected to constant intimidation and fear of death, most non-Muslims, especially in the West, would submit to Islam in exchange for a minimum of tranquility.”

7 Nathan W March 23, 2016 at 3:22 pm

Thank God most Muslims aren’t like that. If they were, and if they indeed held the military capacity to pull any such things, I might be supportive of rather unfriendly measures.

However, the vast majority of Muslims are not at all like that, and are indeed peaceful and sensible people who want normal things like a job and decent family life.

8 Jeff R. March 23, 2016 at 3:28 pm

Nathan, you are back to commenting way too much. Discretion is the better part of not annoying everybody.

9 Cliff March 23, 2016 at 3:40 pm

That seems like an incredibly stupid plan because no one can tell if you are Muslim or not and converting will not in any way help to prevent you from being blown up

10 Nathan W March 23, 2016 at 3:42 pm

Jeff – Let me know if I start posting 20 promos per post endorsing the same political candidate, or going around smearing anyone I disagree with. Please call me out on it if I start doing anything like that. No one is requiring you to read things that you think are irrelevant, repetitive or uninteresting.

However, in this case, I repeat myself somewhat. The “not all Muslims are like that, not even remotely close” point seems to require repeating.

11 Nathan W March 23, 2016 at 3:51 pm

Cliff – a genuine “Alhamdulillah ” (in the sense of being grateful for whatever crumbs God may have had the grace to allow you to have) will get you safely through most radical quarters.

Today is a beautiful day, Alhamdulillah. The food is good, Alhamdulillah. The bus will come soon, Enshallah (God willing). Shokrun for the cigarette – Alhamdulillah (God was kind enough to you that you have sufficient plenty so share a cigarette with me). Have a nice day, enshallah.

No point in pretending you’re Muslim if you’re not. Just learn your please and thank yous and you’re pretty much good to go.

Outside of civil war zones and excluding instances of rare terrorist events, just demonstrating appreciation for what you have and being resigned not to complaining about what is outside of your control will set things very much at ease if in places where the version of Islam is somewhat more rigid and Westerners viewed with suspicion.

Anyways … I largely agree with your assessment of the plan. I find it offensive that he would think Westerners would just roll over. So offensive, indeed, that I wonder how credibly to take it. The religious can be somewhat deluded by confidence in divine will, however.

12 Jeff R. March 23, 2016 at 4:23 pm

Not being quite as shameless as Trump supporters doesn’t get you off the hook, W. You’re still basically spamming the comment threads here with what mostly amounts with industrial grade banality. Try asking yourself “would someone who thinks I’m annoying revise their opinion of me after I reading this comment I’m about to publish?” If the answer is no, hit Cancel and then slap yourself across the face.

13 So Much For Subtlety March 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm

he sheikh believed that, if subjected to constant intimidation and fear of death, most non-Muslims, especially in the West, would submit to Islam in exchange for a minimum of tranquility.”

He has a point. But they do not need to kill liberals. They are so spineless that shouting works. After all, the Left is happy to display Piss Christ and give prizes to the Virgin Mary made out of elephant dung. They will not display the Muhammed cartoons. More so in Europe than in America but the same trend applies. Muslims threaten to kill people, Christians do not.

Even if Britain the rapes in Rotherham went on for years because the Leftist media accused anyone who raised them of racism. They tried to get people fired and jailed. Nick Griffin, a deeply unpleasant man, was actually thrown in a police cell simply for mentioning them – in a pub. Christians have been jailed for preaching in Muslim areas.

Terrorism works.

14 Nathan W March 24, 2016 at 12:27 am

Jeff – I sometimes wonder “how much would neo-Nazis and white nationalists like me to shut up and go away?” I conclude: probably quite a lot. So I double down.

SMFS – of the people who march into the face of fire, fear free, to build bridges, do you think they tend to stray more liberal or conservative? Indeed, conservatives quiver in their beds at night, demanding a police state to protect them from things that are less dangerous than slippery bathtubs. There will be no bowing down to Islam, but more importantly, there will be no bowing down to fear.

15 Cliff March 24, 2016 at 12:56 am


You seem incapable of directly addressing a point. I didn’t say anything about how to get along with radical Muslims if for some reason I decide to wonder into a radicalized neighborhood. You decided to start a new topic about how if I am insufficiently humble, radical Muslims will kill me for walking down the street? Is that the idea?

By the way there are no neo-nazis or white nationalists around here that I am aware of. Are you conflating people who support Canadian immigration policies with Neo-nazis? Of course you are. In your mind the average Canadian citizen is a neo-nazi, and yes I am sure they would like you to go away and stop calling them neo-nazis and generally being annoying and delusional.

16 Art Deco March 24, 2016 at 7:11 am

He has a point. But they do not need to kill liberals. They are so spineless that shouting works.

The professional-managerial bourgeoisie is largely populated with people who fancy the vernacular element in their own society is the enemy. Protecting truculent foreigners is a self-aggrandizing exercise for them. One of the few elites not inclined to do this is Israel’s, which explains why that little country is such a target for the chatterati.

17 Gabe March 24, 2016 at 11:16 am

It should be hard to discuss the history of terrorism in Europe without discussing the horrifying immorality of Operation Gladio.

Why do educated people continue to stick their heads in the sand and pretend that the CIA/NATO/MI6/Mossad etc don’t support killing innocent people to manipulate the masses.

18 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 1:27 pm

I am a liberal on these matters, which makes me very un European, but I think that Europeans have only changed in their awareness of the destruction that comes with their traditional behavior, but at some point this will either reduce or will result in a return to old norms.

I wonder if the recent bouts of historic sentimentality about the “Multicultural” Empires of Europe’s past is not just an elite fantasy of hoping that Statism and regulation will end this, but ALL of these Empires, be they Ottoman, Habsburg, Carolinginan, or Ottoman involved a classification system of their subjects with separate laws accompanied by not infrequent massacre and communal punishments, we just forget that part.

19 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 1:41 pm

Pan Europeanism seems to forget this, but the very names celebrated by the New Europe are not exactly Liberal or inclusive. They are not all that different from say Napoleon or Julius Caesar

Justus Lipsius the humanist who the Council of Europe’s building is named for argued there should be only one church, one faith, and though from a Protestant district he pledged himself to Rome advocated the extirpation of heretics with fire and sword. Breivik could be seen as model European by these standards. Charlemagne ruled with the sword by grace of god and extirpated paganism in Bavaria and Saxony, Schumann was a hero of French national resistance, etc…

This sort of thing becomes self parody on occasion, I have a relative who teaches at a University that was named after Simon de Montfort, the hammer of the Cathars in 1992!

20 Horhe March 23, 2016 at 3:06 pm

Don’t go back that far. You have Coudenhove-Kalergi’s writings which make him out to be a Slytherin type that sounds so close to type you’d think anti-Semites invented him to be a caricature of their fears. And, yet, he existed. And got the first Charlemagne prize. And has a prize named after him. And is a one of the great European philosophers, like Kant, enumerated by Martin Schulz as forming his views on Europe.

21 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 3:28 pm

Exactlty, deep down this is about building some European nationality out of expedience, and high minded humanism is a pretty solid European value, peculiar to Europe and thus a legitimate basis for creating an identity, but if expediency requires other solid European values they will serve just as well. I think the events of the last year make Europe even more necessary in the long run, but when it comesit will be just as ugly under the surface as anything else that comes from European realpolitik.

The really big step is reconciling the post war North European elites who have leaned a little too much on the self image of being “New” Europeans with their more eastern more egalitarian post socialist fellows. Maybe Brexit will actually help here, after all unlike the Brits, and even the Nordics, the French, Germans, Italians, Poles, and Romanians have always set great store on being European, even when it is merely aspirational, and none of them gain real psychic comfort from pretending otherwise.

I think ever closer union is going to happen and it will be based on shared identity opposing the other. Hang together or hang seperately.

Btw, I am not arguing some American fantasy National Front fasiscm or far right dream of renewed Christendom resurgent, none of this requires any of that, just good old fashioned passive aggressive exclusion of the other.

22 Roger D March 24, 2016 at 4:48 am

Simon de Montfort (c. 1175-1218), crusader against the Cathars. Killed at the siege of Toulouse barely 200m from his wife Alix and namesake younger son, themselves holed up in the counts’ palace surrounded by the angry populace.

Simon de Montfort (c. 1208-1265), 6th Earl of Leicester, son of previous, led the barons against Henry III; regarded as early democratic hero, hence De Montfort University, Leicester.

Easy mistake to make at this distance.

23 Roy LC March 24, 2016 at 11:34 am

Thanks I appreciate the clarification.

But to further my greater cause it was fil who drove the Jews out of Lancaster.

24 RM March 23, 2016 at 4:45 pm

Maybe if Bush II had a smarter response to 9/11, it would have helped: There were no suicide bombings in any Muslim countries until the invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq war, at least according to and

25 chip March 23, 2016 at 7:17 pm

The threat today is existential. The attacks are on western culture and society itself, and not just with bombs and bullets, but with an Islamic belief system that is by definition in contradiction with secular values.

Images of Mohammed have effectively been censored from public life as unofficial blasphemy laws take root. Large sections of cities have become multicultural enclaves, women are restricting their movement and behavior, Jews are abandoning cities they have called home for centuries.

The majority of Belgian youth will soon be Muslim in a country already divided between the Flemish and Walloons.

Belgium will cease to exist.

26 chip March 23, 2016 at 7:29 pm

“monocultural enclaves”

Which touches in the irony of states pursuing multiculturalism ending up with the opposite. Like uber feminist Sweden finding itself with the highest rate of rape in the OECD.

27 Nathan W March 24, 2016 at 12:32 am

Sweden counts each instance of rape as one rape. So, if you rape your wife daily fagainst her will or a year, this enters onto the books as 365 rapes, not one. This is the main thing driving the Swedish rape statistics.

The first rule of comparing rape statistics across countries is that you can’t compare rape statistics across countries. It makes more sense to focus on convictions, where differences in judicial methods and ease of obtaining a conviction may be more readily comparable (e.g., it is obviously understated in a fair few Muslim countries due to the near impossibility of obtaining 4 male witnesses).

28 Cliff March 24, 2016 at 1:02 am

Well the total number of reported rapes in Sweden has only increased by about 50% over the last 10 years so I am sure they are doing great.

29 carlolspln March 23, 2016 at 10:46 pm

Its been divided between the Flemish & Walloons for centuries.

WTF do you care about Belgium?

Keep your shorts on.

30 Nathan W March 24, 2016 at 12:39 am

Interestingly, an example of a multicultural society that has worked reasonably OK for a very long time. Sure, it leads to stasis in parliament sometimes, but things basically move on OK when the ability to implement new legislation is stalled.

31 Cliff March 24, 2016 at 1:03 am

French and Dutch is not exactly a cultural chasm and yet the politics there are basically chaos.

32 Adrian Ratnapala March 24, 2016 at 12:39 am

It’s true that the Soviet Union is important, but you can see on the graph that Irish terrorism was going strong right through the ’90s. The Good Friday agreement helped of course, but what really put the screws on was that ordinary Americans stopped supporting them in 2001.

33 Art Deco March 24, 2016 at 7:22 am

“Ordinary Americans” were not ‘supporting’ the IRA. Knuckleheads in Boston and New York were. The Ancient Order of Hibernians tolerated people in leadership positions who were also invoved in Noraid.

34 TMC March 24, 2016 at 12:10 pm

Boston and New York and a crap load of everywhere else too. Most support dwindled when the splinter groups started up with the violence again.

35 Raymer Diaz March 23, 2016 at 1:11 pm

Thanks for the links. Although, it is pronounced “bachata”, not “bachada”.

36 Art Deco March 23, 2016 at 1:27 pm

Interview with Deirdre, story about Deirdre.

Donald McCloskey’s a freak show for the times, at least the times as the sort of person who gets hired at Chronicle of Higher Education experiences them. The rest of us might prefer not to have him in our field of view.

37 Cliff March 23, 2016 at 2:02 pm

Are you the guy who tries to stymie anyone who decides to go by their middle name?

38 The Original D March 23, 2016 at 3:22 pm

Fortunately her genitalia has no impact on her writing and analysis, which are outstanding. What’s your excuse?

39 Nathan W March 23, 2016 at 3:26 pm

I find that my genetalia tend to get in the way when I write. It’s THAT big (a Trumpism).

40 Turdley McPooh March 24, 2016 at 1:47 am

Your jokes are every bit as good as your opinions.

41 a Fred March 24, 2016 at 2:14 am

“I find that my genetalia (sic) tend to get in the way when I write.”

Not enough.

42 Turdley McPooh March 24, 2016 at 3:52 am

Brevity, timeliness, truth. That’s how it’s done.

43 Art Deco March 23, 2016 at 6:00 pm

Fortunately her genitalia has no impact on her writing and analysis,

Best take that up with him. Not my job to defend his fancies.

44 Jan March 23, 2016 at 7:39 pm

Old, angry, wrong and not changing anyone’s mind. Play another one of your classics, Art.

45 firingline March 23, 2016 at 9:08 pm

Better old and angry than sexually twisted and physically mutilated.

46 John March 23, 2016 at 10:25 pm

I don’t know about that. Old and angry shortly leads to dead. And then he’ll either be non-existent or if his zombie Jesus really does exist he’ll burn in hell for the mortal sin of hatred.

47 So Much For Subtlety March 23, 2016 at 7:54 pm

Actually it is clear that McCloskey’s sexuality has an enormous impact on McCloskey’s writing and analysis. You only have to read Galileo’s Middle Finger to see that. McCloskey does not come off well although other Trans activists come off a lot worse.

Also I am not sure that McCloskey’s male DNA has not had an impact in some way. Either through male hormones leading to more rigorous and logical thought or through teachers not coddling male students as much. Because in general Alice Dreger’s logic, even when she is right, is not impressive. She fails to see she is as much of a self-righteous politically correct bully as McCloskey.

And I did like her introduction where she said sexism in science is dead so she is free to study whatever she wants to study. So she didn’t not choose to study science or medicine. She chose to study the history of medicine. Way to stick it to the Man and fight patriarchy!

But a sample of two is perhaps a little small.

48 Roger Sweeny March 24, 2016 at 11:56 am

McCloskey’s style has gotten too rococo, but her ideas are important and should have much wider currency.

49 spencer March 23, 2016 at 1:28 pm

I’m 74 years old and have to get up and go to the bathroom several times each night.

For me, the self-making bed would be a big step backwards.

50 Art Deco March 23, 2016 at 1:32 pm

#7: So, no go areas in Brussels and Maalmo are not a problem because Irish Republican Army and ETA.

51 Joe In Morgantown March 23, 2016 at 2:04 pm

Don’t forget the IRA and ETA received important funding and encouragement from the Soviet Union— Maalmo and Brussels are self inflicted.

52 Millian March 23, 2016 at 2:43 pm

Tell us what the Provisional IRA got from the Soviet Union.

53 Lord Action March 23, 2016 at 2:48 pm

If I remember correctly, there were defector reports of weapons shipments. Neither of the involved groups are likely to be very open to talking about this.

54 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 4:27 pm

I remember Cuban support in the mid 70s, Libyan in the 80s, and pretty consistent Syrian aid. East German support was also not infrequent especially with travel and documents. There was some training and infornation exchange with the ANC and SWAPO as well, associated with Cuban support, along with other Arab groups. The Libyans were noteworthy in allegedly supplying higher technology explosives, but I don’t know if this actually occurred.

With the ETA, Syria was also a standout as well as various Red Brigade/Red Army groups, along with Cubans and allegedly the Sandinistas.

One thing to keep in mind is that both ETA and IRA factions had immense technical skill both in trade craft and bomb making and were often sought out as instructors. Often material aid was in direct payment for such services. Both organizations were, and are quite entrepreneurial.

Another aspect of this is that Albanian Intelligence and Croatian nationalist groups (pre 1990) are often linked to both IRA factions such as the Provos and the ETA, but it was probably more a matter of the cooperation of gangsters in fund raisining activities than any actual political sympathy.

55 Gabe March 24, 2016 at 12:03 pm

Don’t forget the Bolshevik revolution and USSR received important funding and encouragement from West.

56 Joe Torben March 23, 2016 at 3:03 pm

You can’t even spell the name of the place, and yet your spelling is better than your knowledge about it. Sad.

57 dr March 23, 2016 at 5:43 pm

The idea of no go areas was thoroughly debunked and rejected – fox news even made a formal apology for promulgating such weak thinking.

So, they’re not a problem because they’re not a thing.

Islamic terrorism is a serious problem, but one whose threat to Western Europe needs to be put in its proper place, not fear-mongered to epic proportions by people susceptible to anecdotes and confirmation bias.

58 Art Deco March 23, 2016 at 5:57 pm
59 Jan March 23, 2016 at 7:46 pm

I saw lots of police in that video of a “no-go area”. Hmm.

60 firingline March 23, 2016 at 11:40 pm

Did you see the part where the police abstained from entering the neighborhood for fear of provoking the them? How about when they attacked the camera crew anyway, for nothing?

61 Jan March 24, 2016 at 5:31 am

The cops didn’t go in there because the crew didn’t want them to. What are you talking about?

62 Jan March 24, 2016 at 5:33 am

And this “no go” area appears to be what, a mini-mall? It’s not a city, or a neighborhood. Did you see all the nice people that were talking with them and the guy in the wheelchair who literally ran down the other Somali who was giving the crew a hard time?

63 dr March 25, 2016 at 12:09 pm

You do realize that you’re perfectly illustrating ” people susceptible to anecdotes and confirmation bias.”? Right? You must. Too ironic otherwise.

64 Arjun March 23, 2016 at 6:14 pm

I assume the point of those statistics is to put things into perspective for those who are constantly wetting their pants over their fear of fundamentalist Islamic terrorism, not to deny that there is no problem at all.

65 Yancey Ward March 23, 2016 at 1:33 pm


Well, Tyler, an argument would be nice. Perhaps this needs its own blog entry.

66 anon March 23, 2016 at 1:38 pm

Perhaps he sees it as the Kobayashi Maru, and he refuses to choose the least-bad of two bad choices Certainly one could say “just cure the disorder.” Until that time though, I think there is the moral obligation to choose the lessor evil, whatever that is in a specific circumstance.

67 alkali March 23, 2016 at 1:46 pm

Framing the question as “should you be able to stunt the physical growth of your disabled child” doesn’t quite capture it. No one is suggesting that we permit parents to stunt the growth of color-blind children.

68 bellisaurius March 23, 2016 at 1:49 pm

Agreed. This is not an open and shut case. If the child will never reach physiological abilities past a six month old, the caretakers needs become pretty important. I’m 42 with a child who has mild cerebral palsy, and I shudder to think what a quadriplegic child would be like to move when he’s 14 and I’m 56,

Goal A for any family isn’t the child. Goal A is parental sanity. Any goods from a family structure ultimately result from a sane parent/s making decisions that will work best for the child in their long term. Making the child easier to care for is an aid to that, Making it harder makes every single decision down the line harder- your just a bit more anxious, more tired, etc.

As to rights of the child to their physical growth and development, well, I alreay make decisions like that. I choose how much they exercise and play, for example. I choose their diet. My goal isn’t to have the biggest child at any point in there. My goal is to have the most well adjusted and physically fit child I can manage. Also, a smaller child should find it easier to do most things that involve moving their body since, well, they weigh less. I see precious little downside unless suddenly a cure is found for the disability. I’m not seeing that right down the turnpike.

69 Daniel Weber March 23, 2016 at 1:58 pm

By the Grace of God I don’t have to make that decision, but some friends have very disabled children and the only way they physically survive is by being larger than the child.

70 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 2:09 pm

I am instinctually horrified by this but I have a family history that makes me wonder.

My Great Aunt was born when my great grandmother was almost 50, she suffered from extremely severe Friedreich’s Ataxia, among other things.

She was the same age as my mother and when my mother visited, when she was 12 her aunt was clearly starving. She told my mother that the attacks were increasing and she had become bulemic because my great grandmother a very strong and large woman had begun to carry her. My Mother remembers helping my great grandmother in trying to force feed her and sharing a bed with her to stop her bulimia. My mother spent two years trying to stop it but she had a will of iron. She ended up very small anyway and died in her thirties, but her mother was able to carry her till the very end.

She was very intelligent and helped my mother through calculus and diff eq, despite having left school in the sixth grade. She the kindest person I ever knew, and lived far longer than anyone expected. I remember her explaining the infinitessimal to my 5-6 year old self and trying to explain how to calculate square and cube roots in your head, I still hear her sing song old antique Swedish accent in my head. I always wish she had lived to teach me algebra.

The difference though is that she chose this herself, but that was in the 40s and 50s, and it was a very different world, even in Sweden.

71 Jan March 23, 2016 at 3:30 pm

Tough issue, but if we disallow the application of certain medical therapies which parents say make their lives easier and which a child necessarily cannot have a mature opinion on, then it seems we should be prepared to make other allowances for the parents. For example, can we help them with more state funds so they can pay caretakers? My thought is that we shouldn’t automatically say no to both kinds of assistance.

72 Alain March 24, 2016 at 2:01 am

The example in the story seems quite clear cut: the mind of a six month old simply cannot be allowed to have the body of a grown person. However, the danger lies, as usual, in the precedent and in the discretion of those who will adjudicate the next case.

73 nibble March 23, 2016 at 1:35 pm

Those who say no to #2, on parental decisions to change a child physically and permanently for non-illness reasons, may want to reconsider their support, if any, for male (or female) circumcision.

74 Daniel Weber March 23, 2016 at 1:40 pm
75 DG March 23, 2016 at 2:02 pm

Daniel, it would be better if you assume that not everyone is as oblivious to the possible similarities, or as unwilling to even raise them, as you.

76 Daniel Weber March 23, 2016 at 2:07 pm


77 Jan March 23, 2016 at 7:47 pm

Well having my son circumcised isn’t for my benefit, so there’s one difference.

78 Cliff March 24, 2016 at 1:06 am

Often it is, though, based on the parent’s perception of aesthetics etc.

79 anon March 23, 2016 at 1:38 pm

3. must mess with people who think high tax stifles innovation, eh?

80 Lord Action March 23, 2016 at 1:54 pm

3. I note the Entrepreneurial Quality in Boston map is not showing Route 128, as it is labeled, it’s showing Route 3. Route 3 starts at 128 in Burlington and heads northwest. Yes, yes, I know technically Route 3 continues south and eventually winds up at the Cape. But we all no nobody cares about that part.

If you aren’t from Boston you might remember hearing about 128 from the 70s, but these days the action is north and west of the city. 128 is arguably priced out of contention. There is also notable startup momentum in the city itself exemplified by Wayfair, which is an interesting thing.

81 Lord Action March 23, 2016 at 2:24 pm

we all “know” nobody cares…

I hate words.

82 Doug March 23, 2016 at 2:28 pm

5. Gross

83 mkbarch March 23, 2016 at 3:00 pm

Definitely. Esthetic squalor.

84 mkbarch March 23, 2016 at 3:04 pm

Probably designed to appeal to bad people, frankly. Despots, plutocrats, kakistocrats & such. They tend to be a certain kind of stupid.

85 rayward March 23, 2016 at 2:31 pm

3. How many “high-quality” advertising platforms does America need? Newspapers and magazines at one time were “high-quality” advertising platforms, and what happened to them. Like bees drawn to honey, money is drawn to the herd.

86 G. Higgson March 23, 2016 at 2:38 pm

#1. The correct spelling is bachata, Tyler.

87 Adam March 23, 2016 at 2:57 pm

Don’t forget, it will take drunk drivers around a fortnight to kill as many Belgians as ISIS has this millennium.In both cases the perpetrator and random bystander is killed. Talk about a culture of evil.

88 mkbarch March 23, 2016 at 3:12 pm

3. The world is definitely spiky, not just flat. So people should move, and abandon the communities that Kevin WIlliamson says need to die? OK fine, but what are the rents in those destinations, like the Bay Area? Getting from the flatlands, or the deep gorges, poverty pockets, what-have-you, onto those spikes, is hard. Good info here; let’s all wish them luck.

89 Cererean March 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm

2. We already accept medical intervention to delay the onset of puberty in children with precocious puberty, so that 6 year olds don’t end up having bodies more suited to a 16 year old. So we’ve already accepted that it’s okay to intervene to make sure mental and physical development are synced.

Given that the children in these cases will not develop mentally past the point of childhood, the conclusion appears pretty clear, to me at least…

Even if we ignore the difficulties that caregivers would face – which we shouldn’t, because it will be better for the child (and I use that term based on their mental development, not physical) I think if they don’t have to move to an unfamiliar environment because they’re too big for their parents to care for them – in the original case, the comfort of Ashley X was a factor in the decision. Had they not suspended her development, she would have had an increased risk of bedsores, discomfort resulting from large breasts (a trait that ran in the family, from what I’ve read), menstruation…

It’s been claimed such treatment is degrading because it desexualises them. I’m more concerned about the people who try to sexualise the severely mentally handicapped…

90 Nathan W March 23, 2016 at 3:36 pm

I wonder how growth hormone inhibitors would go over to reduce the burden to caregivers.

I think in considering inhibiting sexual development of the mentally ill, I think we first need to recognize that there’s a very large continuum. You’ve got people who cannot feed themselves and will never be potty trained, and you’ve got people who merely rank low on indicators of functional ability but can basically care for themselves with the odd extra visit to help with planning and to make sure the cobwebs are cleared out. I imagine some would find the notion offensive at any level, but if you’re at all open to the idea, the extremely wide spectrum involved is an important consideration.

91 Cererean March 23, 2016 at 5:34 pm

Well, I definitely think it should require a judge, rather than a bioethics committee. Unfortunately, at the moment that would be very difficult to do, because we’re not allowed to have reasoned discussions about such issues.

92 Nathan W March 24, 2016 at 12:50 am

The 20th century forays into eugenics and fears of slippery slopes make it difficult to have such conversations. I have no idea how to enter into such a conversation without legitimizing the entry of essentially Nazi argumentation. Parents of severely disabled children who demonstrably love their children are probably the only voices we should prioritize here, imo.

93 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 3:46 pm

But we do this in the name of making these children normal. That always seems natural and good.

As to sexualizing/desexualizing the disabled in this era of sexuality is “good” and “natural”, sexuality not apparently controlled by reason is completely terrifying and threatening to society. Most rhetoric of consent is based on this very shaky footing.

94 Nathan W March 23, 2016 at 3:38 pm

7) Where’s the chronology of deaths resulting from oversized shoes resulting in fatal falls? As a staunch social conservative with a view to protecting our earliest proto-civilizational traits, I advocate for banning shoes, to save lives, save souls, and uphold the general civilizational order of yore.

95 Cliff March 23, 2016 at 3:48 pm

Completely nonsensical, but as a matter of fact we would probably be better off with less shoes

96 Roy LC March 23, 2016 at 4:33 pm

I remember seeing a study arguing that being barefoot contributed to more falls among middle aged women than any type of shoe. I just did a little googling and found a few studies like this but none were the one I read.

When google scholar first came out I had a couple of underemployed friends and they used to make ridiculous counterintuitive statements and then try and find backing for them, it got old fast, but that was one of them.

97 Turdley McPooh March 24, 2016 at 2:01 am

I lose enough life reading Nathan’s comments; I shudder to consider a Google search based on them.

98 Jens March 23, 2016 at 5:34 pm

#2 Seems quite well justified for the stated purpose. However, I think it will be misused to curtail excentric persons such as high-IQ autistics.

99 March 23, 2016 at 9:11 pm

Re: Engineers and Economists

From The Chronicle of Higher Education

(A survey on) The need for closure and embrace of hierarchy .. and corellation with .. opinions on social norms, immigrants, income inequality, and the likeliness of a terrorist attack …

Economics graduates often topped the list, the authors found, but engineering students most consistently scored higher across all of the measures.

Would be more relevant if compare with the % in the general graduate pop for the respective majors.

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