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1 MMc June 19, 2017 at 11:52 am

#2 Camille

Camille Paglia: ” Some background is necessary. First of all, I must make my political affiliations crystal clear. I am a registered Democrat who voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary and for Jill Stein in the general election. Since last Fall, I’ve had my eye on Kamala Harris, the new senator from California, and I hope to vote for her in the next presidential primary. “

2 Thor June 19, 2017 at 4:00 pm

Anyone who uses the word “cuck” is incapable of providing any insight, except into inadequacy.

On the other hand, boats could be renamed “MegaMcCuck” instead of “BoatyMcBoatface”, so you haven’t been totally useless, MMc.

3 MMc {real one} June 19, 2017 at 4:35 pm

… that was just some troll, posing as me

4 Art Deco June 19, 2017 at 4:53 pm

People who call themselves “Thor” online are probably beta-cucks in real life.

5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ June 19, 2017 at 8:20 pm
6 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 12:19 pm

#3. it may be the case that some firms in some places may be willing to forgo rents rather than reduce their workforce, but all firms in some places? I think not. When we’re talking about a broad policy of raising minimum wages across many firms in many places it’s unfathomably unlikely that some firms in some places will not be induced, at the margin, to reduce employment.
Similarly, it may the case that some consumers may not be induced to reduce spending at fast-food restaurants as a result of price increases, but imagining that no consumers will do so is wishful thinking. Every business or person has different individual circumstances, randomly distributed through society. Some of them at already at the margin with respect to some spending or employment, and some price increase will necessarily push some of those people over the margin. It’s complete fantasy to think that marginal effects of increasing the minimum wage do not exist.

7 mulp June 19, 2017 at 2:05 pm

You are falling victim to free lunch economics.

Economies are zero sum.

Workers earning more due to higher minimum wage will spend more, not less.

And I doubt Warren Buffett and Mitt Romney and Donald Trump eats one single ounce less per year because a minimum wage for all workers, not just non-farm workers, of $15 an hour doubled the price of lettuce, chicken by 50%, and beef by 33%. Even in the long run, cars and houses will increase in prices by far less, but the low wage workers will find better cars and housing within reach, increasing demand for them.


Cutting food worker wages is not free but comes and lower aggregate consumption, and lower gdp.

Odd that conservatives claim government is the problem, but the call for the EITC to be higher to boost gdp and profits. Businesses depend on the tax refunds in the spring of each year for the government boost to business from consumer splurges.

8 GoneWithTheWind June 19, 2017 at 5:03 pm

People who want to substantially increase the minimum wage believe that there is a free lunch.

9 Thomas Sewell June 22, 2017 at 2:37 am

So according to your theory of zero sum economics, why don’t we just set the minimum wage to a Billion dollars an hour? Then we can all work our 5 minutes a year and go home to enjoy a life of leisure with all the stuff we’ll purchase…

10 Jeff R June 19, 2017 at 3:20 pm

Just because people keep talking doesn’t mean the debate isn’t over.

11 Dick the butcher June 19, 2017 at 3:47 pm


12 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ June 19, 2017 at 8:24 pm

We learned today that monumental labor abuse still exists in this country. Like 67 cents per week net pay:

That and Libertarians do not really exist:

13 Potato June 19, 2017 at 11:47 pm

Haven’t been able to see the questions, the scale, or their methodology.

I’ve been looking at the website for 10 minutes and don’t see a link to the data and model.

I’m not saying it’s wrong, I’m just saying it’s not ideal.

Most likely they’re correct. Libertarians are a very small group. It’s almost entirely socially awkward white males with IQs over 115. Although with all the complaining about “the rubes” you’d think liberal America would want votes to reflect IQ points. Maybe a proportionate system ? But intelligence is racist, or privilege and lead. It really is a gordion knot: if your constituency is an alliance of rich professionals and poor minorities, how do you thread the needle? So far it’s been “the 1% need to pay up!” But of course that’s not where the money is. The money is in the top 40%. Go tell the 80k a year professional she should pay 40k in tax for welfare. They already pay almost 30 in total taxes, I’m sure they’ll love to pay another 10.


14 Ricardo June 20, 2017 at 6:09 am

“But of course that’s not where the money is. The money is in the top 40%. Go tell the 80k a year professional she should pay 40k in tax for welfare. They already pay almost 30 in total taxes, I’m sure they’ll love to pay another 10.”

The top 1% of tax filers earn about $1.9 trillion in adjusted gross income: that is about one fifth of all AGI reported to the IRS. If we look at the top 16% (which corresponds to AGI of at least $100,000), that is where the majority of income is concentrated. The claim that “the money is in the top 40%” is a bit arbitrary and doesn’t seem to be based on any objective metric of income distribution in the U.S.

15 Thomas June 20, 2017 at 3:35 pm

More dishonesty from Ricardo. The suggestion that the top 1% can pay for things like Universal Healthcare is a lie sold by liars to fools.

16 Hazel Meade June 20, 2017 at 9:38 am

Nothing has been more disappointing to me in the past year than to discover how many so-called libertarians were willing to jump ship and go full racist just because a demagogue appeared and said he would keep brown people out of the country for them.

17 Thomas June 20, 2017 at 3:36 pm

Translation: “Libertarians who don’t support open borders are racist.”

18 Hazel Meade June 20, 2017 at 9:42 am

Also, nothing has proven to me more that white males on the internet don’t necessarily have higher IQs than anyone else. Voting for Trump and using the word “cuck” are both signs of below-average IQ. Very below average.

19 Thomas June 20, 2017 at 3:33 pm

That the job described sucks notwithstanding, the argument that 67 cents per week net pay exists is a lie equivalent to me saying that my net pay is the dollar amount left after I pay my car loan. Again, the job sucks, but the pay is net of payment on ownership of a truck. Rent-to-own is a dangerous fools’ game. $0.67 per week is a lie.

20 Dick the BUtcher June 19, 2017 at 12:22 pm

#3 – It won’t be over until there are no minimum wage jobs.

21 EverExtruder June 19, 2017 at 12:26 pm


22 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 1:31 pm

That will be when the minumum wage is $0. 🙂

23 mulp June 19, 2017 at 2:08 pm

And the costs of housing, cars, gasoline, food will be $0?

Or that is when the EITC tax refund is $40,000?

How many businesses pray their customers get pay and benefits cuts?

24 Boonton June 19, 2017 at 2:11 pm

Why $0? I could imagine unpaid internships might actually produce a negative wage….you have to pay to work there and it will be worth it given the experience and connections you will make (perhaps a clerkship for a SC Justice for a law student or helping a famous director for a film student)?

So imagine you have a negative wage where you have to pay. Could we get the IRS to apply that to tax brackets so the gov’t would actually pay you since negative number times positive tax rate equals negative taxes?

25 Jeff R June 19, 2017 at 3:22 pm

Wouldn’t it be easier to just tax the employer on the payments they receive from their interns?

26 Boonton June 20, 2017 at 10:33 am

They would be taxed on ‘negative pay’ they get from employees just as they pay taxes on the revenue employees generate.

27 JWatts June 19, 2017 at 3:42 pm

“Why $0? I could imagine unpaid internships might actually produce a negative wage…”

We generally classify that as school.

28 Just Another MR Commentor June 19, 2017 at 4:43 pm

School isn’t enough nowadays. You need good internships.

29 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 9:39 pm

It’s a co-op program.

30 Anonymous June 19, 2017 at 4:23 pm
31 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 9:39 pm

Isn’t this sort of what the tuition tax deduction is for? Just say it’s an educational workshop rather than a job. Done.

32 Boonton June 19, 2017 at 2:18 pm

In a different universe a transformative President managed to bring liberals and conservatives together by beefing up the Earned Income Tax Credit and stop demonizing it in exchange for lower/no Fed. min wage.

33 Potato June 19, 2017 at 11:53 pm

How does that help people who do not work ? This is a horrible misdiagnosis of what causes poverty.

A married couple that earns 35k each is solidly middle class. And they can work their way up to 40 or 45k each.

What about a woman who decides to have a kid at 18. Now she’s earning minimum wage and has children. Congratulations, you’ve discovered poverty in America.

Paying for IUDs would be the best government policy. Blanket check, 200 a month for every woman who gets an IUD and free installation.

34 Boonton June 20, 2017 at 10:35 am

“How does that help people who do not work ?…”

How does raising the min. wage help those who aren’t holding down a job?

35 Boonton June 20, 2017 at 11:55 am

Also the Earned Income Tax Credit would give the woman with a child more additional money than a woman without a child whereas the min. wage is the same regardless of how many people you are supporting.

Your ‘free IUD’ idea implies our chief problem is too high a fertility rate. I don’t see evidence of that.

36 Thomas June 20, 2017 at 3:40 pm

You must live in another universe if you believe that. See: “welfare to improve the lives of the poor is actually welfare to their employers.”

37 EverExtruder June 19, 2017 at 12:26 pm

#6 IL is canary in the coal mine for California and sadly the rest of the country a decade or more down the road. Lots of people harping or chalking this up to bad governance, but not seeing how the 5th largest state in the US could have gotten here and be so poorly governed. Unbelievable.

38 VJV June 19, 2017 at 12:37 pm

I think a big part of it is that IL has adopted a high-service governance model, but doesn’t quite have the economic base to support it (unlike, say, NY and CA). That said, Illinois is very, very poorly governed; it’s probably the worst-governed state in the US aside from perhaps Louisiana. It’s an order of magnitude worse than NY, which is pretty damn dysfunctional*. (I don’t know enough about CA’s government to comment, really).

*I’m speaking of NY State here. NY City is, in my experience, actually reasonably well-governed, at least by the standards of major US cities. But the state is an unholy mess. Still better than Illinois, though.

39 dearieme June 19, 2017 at 1:18 pm

“high-service governance model”: I enjoyed that. ‘Looting’ seems so vulgar.

40 Careless June 19, 2017 at 1:31 pm

“high-service governance model” being some weird code for expensive pensions?

41 The Engineer June 19, 2017 at 3:41 pm

It’s all about the pensions. Half of the school budget goes just for pensions, for example.

It is ironic that the pensions are untouchable, even in bankruptcy, so they jack your taxes up and BANKRUPT YOU. Your home is not yours, it belongs to the pensioners, ultimately. Their claim trumps yours.

42 Dick the Butcher June 19, 2017 at 3:53 pm

A number of state governments are solvent.

One can emigrate from one’s blue state into fly-over America. I have my eyes on Sheridan, WY.

43 zbicyclist June 19, 2017 at 4:46 pm

It’s not so much the pensions themselves as (1) the fact that the pensions were promised, but the state didn’t put in anywhere near enough money year by year to fund them, and (2) high levels of pension corruption.

On point 1, I note the miracle of compound interest works in your favor if you fund as you go, and against you if you defer payments into the indefinite future. If you include what should have been paid in, it’s not clear how many decades you’d have to go back to get to the (constitutionally required) balanced budget. You can argue that the pensions should have been smaller (in line with what the employees themselves put in, and the meager amount the state contributed) or that the state should have contributed in line with their promises. Either is a financially defensible position. The fantasy world of the Illinois legislature over the past 40 years is not defensible.

On point 2, I note (1) the conviction of Levine (a trustee of the Teachers pension fund), (2) the Maryland study showing that Illinois paid more than average in pension management fees but got less than average performance, (3) the habit of giving superintendents and upper level administrators massive increases in salary right before they retire (because the state pays the pension, not the school district), (4) the union lobbyists who received full pensions (i.e. full based on a full career of teaching) based on two days of substitute teaching in the classroom (a benefit made possible by a legislative loophole put in to benefit them).

Getting tired of typing, but you get the idea.

44 VJV June 20, 2017 at 11:08 am

+1 to zbicyclist

45 EverExtruder June 19, 2017 at 1:52 pm

Being able to pay for the “high-service governance model” as you put it is the real crisis of Western Liberal Democracies in the 21st century, especially in a political climate where that model is increasingly looking like the only alternative to a total breakdown in the implied social contract.

I’d suggest a course of action, but the course of action I’d suggest is the course of action I can’t suggest. The Overton Window was opened and passed through some time ago….

46 Cooper June 19, 2017 at 2:20 pm

Illinois state and local government spending as a share of the state’s GDP is 18.82%.

National average: 18.70%

Georgia is a small government state and spends around 15.6%. New York is a big government state and spends over 23%.

If Illinois is trying to a high-service government model, that’s probably news to the people of Illinois. They seem to be about average in terms of state and local spending.

It seems like they mostly ran into trouble with their public pension scheme by overpromising and failing to set aside the necessary funds to meet future obligations.


47 Dick the Butcher June 19, 2017 at 4:01 pm

The Federal government (tragically) can print unlimited supplies of green confetti/currency. States cannot.

I haven’t yet fled NY. And, Governor Andrew Cuomo is doing the same in NY that he did to US Housing when running US HUD. He even has glitzy TV ads recalling the glitzy brochures he produced while at HUD.

I don’t know about this and not that it means anything: FHLMC economist says housing policies that contributed to the great recession are still in existence.

48 A Definite Beta Guy June 19, 2017 at 5:32 pm

Illinois is also running an absolutely gargantuan fiscal deficit. We’re talking $5 billion on $32 billion in revenue, I believe. To actually run the required balanced budget would require jacking up taxes to appx. 22% of GDP, or roughly equivalent to NY. This becomes dramatically worse with time.

Hopefully a lot of this falls on Chicago residential owners, who should bail out their own stupid school pension. Chicago property owners pay less in tax than suburban and collar county households. I paid roughly 2.88% last year, whereas the Chicago average is 1.86%.

Given that we absolutely must pay for retired pensioners to drive around in Ferraris after stumbling drunkenly into work for 30 minutes, yeah, we have to raise taxes, and we have to slash spending considerably. Of course, Illinois is already ranked #43 in per recipient Medicaid spending, but maybe we can go for #50!

49 Cooper June 19, 2017 at 5:54 pm

Also worth pointing out that Illinois’s per capita personal income growth has been extremely low relative to the national average since 2007. Nationally personal incomes have been growing at 1.7%/year. In Illinois growth is only 0.8%.

Only one state, Nevada, has seen a lower rate of income growth.

Maybe they’re make up for it with population growth? Nope. Illinois is also a laggard there. Only one state (West Virginia) has seen a faster decline in its population since 2010. Illinois has lost 30,000 residents since 2010 and the decline is accelerating.

It’s not surprising that a state with such weak growth would be having budget problems.

50 anon June 20, 2017 at 6:55 pm

Demographic factors may contribute to the lack of income growth in Illinois. Its highest income generators – white people in the Chicago suburbs – have been moving to the Sun Belt in droves. A similar amount of people have come in from Latin America to Chicagoland, who make far less income.

51 VJV June 20, 2017 at 11:01 am

Cooper: Thanks for the clarification, I suppose I stand corrected on Illinois.

I suppose the issue really is one of governance, then? I recall when I lived in Chicago, Daley had basically perfected the trick of raising short-term funds by selling or leasing revenue-generating resources (eg, parking meters). That’s obviously not the state government, but this was also around the time Blagojevich was carted off to prison, so…I wouldn’t be surprised if the decision-making there was lacking, as well.

52 rayward June 19, 2017 at 12:26 pm

3. Consider Charleston, SC, a mid-sized city that is experiencing enormous population and economic growth, growth that wouldn’t be possible absent a large number of (mostly young) people willing to work in the restaurants and in retail at or near minimum wage. If the College of Charleston didn’t exist the city would have to create it in order to supply the restaurants and retail with the employees that are essential for the level of service free-spending tourists expect. Not only that, the graduates of the College of Charleston can shift right into selling real estate and working for the lenders who finance the real estate. Growth begets growth for growth’s sake. Indeed, I would identify Charleston’s largest sector as . . . growth. Of course, when the good times come to an end, there are no jobs selling real estate and making loans, leaving the college graduates stuck in the minimum wage jobs they had while in college. Can’t Yellen keep the good times rolling? Sure, just like the last time the Fed kept the good times rolling. An economy based on growth is an economy that is destined for failure.

53 msgkings June 19, 2017 at 12:36 pm

LOL and an economy that doesn’t grow is already a failure. Man you have been getting dumber lately, more fallout in Trump’s America I guess.

54 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 1:36 pm

Yes, it’s possible to have economic growth without population growth. Growth can just mean everyone is getting more productive and more prosperous. It doesn’t necessarily mean physical expansion of the city, although more people will want to live there if it is more prosperous than other places.

55 mulp June 19, 2017 at 2:31 pm

It is mandatory everyone consumes more at the same rate.

Economies are zero sum.

Except in free lunch economics where cutting labor costs will result in workers with declining incomes spending ever more than they did before based on the wealth effect, the richer the 1% becomes, the more the 99% will spend beyond their incomes.

56 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 9:32 pm

So, you think it’s impossible for efficiency to increase, thereby producing more stuff with the same labor, and hence causing labor costs per unit to decline?

57 Anonymous June 20, 2017 at 3:05 am

>It is mandatory everyone consumes more at the same rate.

Wut? Do you think Bill Gates consumes as much as yourself?

There are plenty of areas where growth is limited not by consumption, but by production. Healthcare for example can be an infinite source of jobs if we let it. Just not low-education ones.

58 msgkings June 19, 2017 at 2:33 pm

Usually internet trolls are better at sarcasm.

59 mulp June 19, 2017 at 2:27 pm

“An economy based on growth is an economy that is destined for failure.”

Growth in what?

Growth in debt?

Growth in asset price inflation based on destroying assets, eg, share buy backs, creating “wealth” to convince consumers to go into debt they can’t repay?

Grow producing stuff no one can afford to buy, eg, buy housing driving house construction based on house prices going up even more so you can sell the houses you buy in a year for 50% more than the debt you used to buy them?

We are in the realm of free lunch economics where cutting labor costs boosts gdp because consumers with declining income can increase their consumption at an equal, but opposite rate.


60 Just Another MR Commentor June 19, 2017 at 12:50 pm

#7 uhh..ohh… looks to me like the stage is set for a big time populist surge next time around.

61 Milo Fan June 19, 2017 at 2:13 pm

We all hope…

One “problem” is Macrion is actually sane, by French standards, on economics, and so might actually do well. Hopefully the commies go on strike and derail the planned reforms.(And before the cucks start squawking about “hoping for the worst,” you’ve been doing the same thing with Trump for the past six months. )

62 Just Another MR Commentor June 19, 2017 at 2:16 pm

Nah I mean this is just more of this “best and the brightest” shit. People like this typically come in with a big side of hubris and end up fucking up badly because they think politics is just about having “smart arguments” won with logic but it’s actually not.

63 The right to work June 19, 2017 at 1:05 pm

So for instance, once a door is unlocked, unlike in a business which stays locked, the store has become a public place. And in a public place, one is afforded equal protection under the law so that it is illegal to refuse service unless a policy is readable and clearly stated. It is an issue of minority rights. Such that a bar has a bouncer, and would not refuse a drunk a service so much as advise common sense as it pertains to a common law and a common decency.

On the other hand, a marijuana dispensary, even though legal in that state, cannot bank and thus the woman is disavowed of her right to work by the largest union in the world. So that the dispensary will now offer a way to buy bitcoin. Even though there is a minority right, a right to work, which states one does not have to adhere to a union, passed in 28 states. So that laws should not be democratic or federal but applied on an individual basis in accordance with the local customs.

64 the right to work - st. simon June 19, 2017 at 8:22 pm

AirBnB has been ruled illegal because of what “might” happen, such as noise or garbage issues, even though there are simple municipal laws concerning those things. The same a way a homeless person who enters Zara, cannot be kicked out simply for being homeless because they cannot know if he is homeless. And if he smells bad, he can be advised to leave and come back once he smells properly, and if there is not a sign that says no people who smell bad, then this is a common law issue not a right of refusal. And if the issue is loitering in a restaurant, then the homeless man must for a time be able to sit there until he is asked to leave.

Because Gandhi was kicked off a train, and Rosa Parks was kicked off a bus, and the issue is not that the person was discriminated against. And it is a sad state of affairs to think this was the problem. The problem was that the train was unlocked and the bus was unlocked and so in this public domain, where privacy does not exist, they are afforded equal protection of the law and the person who kicked them off the bus, or off the train, is not guilty of discrimination but of being a douchebag. As the person was already there, and the train was moving along toward its destination with its passenger, and the act of violence pursued by that person is inefficient and unnecessary.

If you look at the history of restaurants in America, you will find that because privacy does not exist in such a private-public domain, that if the door is unlocked and open to the public, it is a public-private entity, and a right of refusal simply doesn’t exist but the burden of proof for such a privilege must be accorded.

65 Edgar June 19, 2017 at 3:10 pm

#7 How could anyone read this and not prefer the French electoral system to the US system? Imagine being able to vote for somebody who actually represented you and not some consultant’s notion of a swing voter.

66 JWatts June 19, 2017 at 3:48 pm

The article isn’t about the electoral system.

67 Edgar June 19, 2017 at 3:59 pm

Dude, read the first sentence. “President Emmanuel Macron’s year-old Republic on the Move party (LREM) won a huge parliamentary majority that boasts scores of lawmakers never before elected…”

68 Art Deco June 19, 2017 at 3:59 pm

If you were paying attention, you’d note that their parliamentary candidates were all slated by bosses in the national offices.

And, of course, policy formulation is witlessly centralized and municipal government absurdly fragmented.

The achievement they’ve had is that deGaulle’s electoral system and rules for the formation of ministries have allowed for more continuity of policy and less time wasted in musical chairs. The ministry under the 4th Republic had to be reconstituted semi-annually.

On top of all that, of course, is the damage to sovereignty done by the EU, about which the French sheeple do not seem to much care.

69 El Generalissimo June 20, 2017 at 3:46 pm

clearly the French would be better off under Church sanctioned military rule, or failing that as a second choice, a lineal descendant of the Bourbon dynasty, as long as he was sufficiently loyal to the Papacy.

70 Barkley Rosser June 19, 2017 at 3:44 pm

People really should pay no attention to Camille Paglia, although her conglomeration of attention-attracting statements along with all of her apparent contradictions (a Bernie and Kamala Harris supporter who spouts lots of outrageously reactionary drivel), not to mention a history of being famous in the past for behaving similarly (all those hot statements about Henry Kissinger, whooee), means she gets attention for her spoutings.

I am simply going to note that she completely discredits herself in a single throaway line, the one about global warming being a “sentimental myth.” Look, one can argue about the degree to which it is anthropegenic and then what should or should not be done about it. But claiming that the very fact of global warming being a “sentimental myth” is as ignorant as saying it is a “Chinese hoax,” although we know of at least one individual who has managed to get himself into a very powerful position and has been acting on his ignorant statements along these lines. So, Camille Puglia is the least of our problems, even if she is utterly lacking in any credibility.

71 Christian Hansen June 19, 2017 at 4:44 pm

I’d say the current popular view of AGW as propounded by people like Al Gore is a sentimental myth. It is based on the notion of an Edenish state of nature that evil man has disturbed. The reality is we have a problem and we have some hard choices to make.

72 Jack PQ June 19, 2017 at 5:34 pm

There are nuggets of gold in Paglia’s interview (interview? doesn’t read like one), but the way she Molotov-cocktails her way through every hot button issue makes it very difficult to have a constructive debate. Her approach seems to be to dynamite everything and then see what’s left standing to argue.

73 Chip June 19, 2017 at 6:06 pm

Sentiment and myth seem to be rather accurate descriptions of a movement fuelled by hysteria and hyperbole, even as the main predictions continue to fail, current temperature changes are indistinguishable from historical natural volatility, and the moderate change that has occurred is clearly a net benefit to life when you consider the calamitous effects of even slight cooling.

Take NOAA/NASA’s recent alarming headline that 2016 was the hottest year ever, even though:

– ever isn’t 30, 50 or 100 years

– the increase over 2015 was 1/10 of the margin of error

– this is all dependent on continuously adjusted, not raw, data and the mostly unadjusted satellite data doesn’t see 2016 as the warmest

As I said, sentiment and myth are pretty apt descriptors.

74 Barkley Rosser June 19, 2017 at 6:18 pm


I just checked NOAA data. For their record on global average temperatures dating from 1880, longer than your claimed 100 year time horizon, 2016 had the highest recorded temperature.

So, I have to ask why you posted a blatantly false statement here. Are you just ignorant, stupid, crazy, or just a blatant lying propagandist? Pick one. That is your choice.

75 byomtov June 19, 2017 at 6:38 pm


76 chuck martel June 19, 2017 at 8:17 pm

Global average temperatures? It is to laugh.

77 Potato June 20, 2017 at 12:08 am

Can you post the data for global average temperature ? I’d like to review the raw data.

I’ve never seen raw data going back 100 years. You speak very definitively, and you’re a brilliant professor. Obviously you have this data in your possession. Id love to look at the analytics. I’m a true believer in the carbon theory. But if you have links to the data set it would be great.

I’m on the consensus side, I’m just interested to see their data analytics.

78 Barkley Rosser June 20, 2017 at 2:51 am

https://www/ for you, potato.

For you, cm, lol.

79 Li Zhi June 19, 2017 at 6:30 pm

#3. People talking over one another. Zero Sum Economics vs Decent (aka Living) Wage. The economy is so distorted and has so many government interventions that I just don’t see any utility in debating it, even though no one advocates (afaik) a $10,000 per hour increase to the minimum wage which to me demonstrates which “side” is factually correct in concluding whether or not jobs are won/lost upon a “marginal” increase.

80 chuck martel June 19, 2017 at 8:19 pm

5. The smartphone has eliminated the doorbell and, of course, the doorbell installer and repairman. Nobody rings doorbells. They simply call the occupant and announce their arrival. A lot of technology to avoid facing a stranger.

81 Adam June 20, 2017 at 8:01 am

I have a doorbell, but a wireless one with a battery in the button. Easy enough to install yourself.

82 Christian Hansen June 19, 2017 at 9:24 pm

#1 is pretty ridiculous. The premise is super idiotic: “What Toronto’s amazing food can tell us about the country’s resistance to far-right populism.” Answer: nothing. The reason Canada resists far right populism comes right down to immigration policy. They don’t let in many low wage competitors and they kick out illegals. Check out the points system. You need proof you have some money (like around 10K for a single person) and you need proof you have worked in a skilled trade.

83 Hazel Meade June 19, 2017 at 9:36 pm

Actually it’s the fellow liberal’s fault Trump got elected. The left has been teaching people for generations that free trade and competition make everyone worse off and that labor markets should be tightly controlled by the government, including by restricting immigration. So they can hardly complain when they vote for a candidate who preaches just that.

84 Crikey June 19, 2017 at 11:10 pm

We foreigners have been watching the percentage of revenue the US collects from tariffs and excises on foreign goods decline for generations, so you’ll have to expand on that comment for it to make sense to us. For example, is Ronald Regan left? Because he’s what immediately comes to mind when opposition to free trade and the US is mentioned. We got some sweet deals on Japanese wheels thanks to him.

85 Hazel Meade June 20, 2017 at 9:34 am

The left consistently dates the terrible terrible effects of “laissez-faire economics” (or which Reagan was an inconsistent practitioner) to the end of the 1970s and the loosening of trade restrictions. We’ve heard endless rhetoric from them about how horrible the WTO is. There was/is an entire “anti-globalization movement” on the left, specifically to combat trade liberalization. Which worked – after Seattle 1999, global trade liberalization ground to a halt, and stayed there. (So it’s no wonder that international trade has plateaued – we’ve reached the limits of current trade law)
The immigration laws forbidding employers from sponsoring a foreigner if they could find an American to do the job, (which is what makes employment sponsorship and expensive multi-year process that barely anyone who doesn’t have an advanced degree in a STEM field makes it through), were written by the labor unions in the 1960s. They are specifically designed to favor domestic labor interests. The labor certifications have to be approved by the Department of Labor, whose task is to protect the interests of US labor – they are not under the Department of State, Homeland Security or USCIS.

86 Crikey June 20, 2017 at 6:27 pm

Thanks for the reply.

87 Meets June 19, 2017 at 11:06 pm

#2 is great, many good points

88 jb June 20, 2017 at 5:46 am
89 Evans_KY June 20, 2017 at 9:32 am

2. Perhaps Camille should leave the science of climate change and transgenderism to the scientists.

Jonathan is “waiting for a showdown between feminism and transgenderism.” One disadvantaged group attacking another is counterproductive when there are larger obstacles to overcome.

3. Minimum wage discussions never seem to address the externalities: safety net programs that support a company fleecing it’s workers and the taxpayer or the social costs of parents who work multiple jobs to support a family.

7. The Lady Gaga of Math has an audacious sense of style. The fossils in our Congress pale in comparison.

90 will June 20, 2017 at 12:40 pm

3. It’s this wording that always irks me. Fleecing its workers and taxpayers via social programs? What are social programs supposed to do if not subsidize consumption for low wage earners? How did we decide that the natural reservation wage was so high for so many low marginal product employees, and that it’s the employers responsibility to keep them on payroll at that wage? What happens to say, Walmart and it’s 2.3million employees when you raise the minimum wage noticeably and remove social programs?

91 Marco June 20, 2017 at 5:15 pm

#1 Toronto is the wrong place to visit if you’re looking for far-right populism. It’s like hanging in NYC and wondering how Trump got elected.

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