Sunday assorted links

by on October 15, 2017 at 2:13 pm in Uncategorized | Permalink

1 dearieme October 15, 2017 at 2:36 pm

And you’ll often find Roman coins at Viking sites, proving that the Vikings spoke Latin and built aqueducts. And coins with Greek on them, proving that the Vikings were olive-munching philosophers.

2 skeptic October 15, 2017 at 2:39 pm


3 another skeptic October 15, 2017 at 10:32 pm

dearieme often knows what he is talking about, not always, but often

4 Dick the Butcher October 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm

Find additional evidence that Norsemen were actually Muslims in Michael Crichton’s “Eaters of the Dead.”

To be fair, medieval Vikings acted much like Muslims in their raids, piracy, massacres, and looting.

Lo, the noble Muslim.

5 Sam Haysom October 15, 2017 at 5:51 pm

Yea no. Especially on the rape front.

6 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 7:02 pm

Iraqis used to have a country before Americans deciding “fighting terrorists there instead of here”.

7 chuck martel October 15, 2017 at 9:39 pm

What’s the statute of limitations on a grave? If somebody digs up a body that was buried a month ago they’re classified as a ghoul and subject to prosecution. On the other hand, if a body that was interred 900 years ago is dug up the digger is an anthropologist studying the past. Somewhere in that time span there must be a line between grave robbery and scientific study. Or between a dead body and an historical artifact. Where is that line?

Furthermore, the digger evidently must have some credentials that allow him to perform the task, probably issued by the state. Who gives the government the right to authorize grave robbing?

8 Anon October 15, 2017 at 9:59 pm


9 A clockwork orange October 15, 2017 at 11:52 pm


10 viking beta October 15, 2017 at 11:22 pm

the runic-arabic dictionaries are particularly interesting in this regard. It shows that the viking were not only literate, but eager to convert to islam

11 Viking October 16, 2017 at 12:21 am

This story made the rounds in Norwegian newspapers during the last week. It is fantastic that they traded!

12 Thor October 15, 2017 at 3:06 pm


“Deeper cultural exchange and shared ideas”? Really? Why not see it as war booty? Oh, I know why.

Islamists: “Sweden was always ours”

Progressive Swedes: “We have always been multicultural (and we are never multicultural enough)”

Anyone with good sense and a skeptical empirical attitude: “we don’t know enough yet.”

Reconstruction of a scenario:

Ancient Viking: “your handkerchief is pretty. I’ll trade you a deer haunch.”
Second ancient Viking: “Too late. I’ve killed him and taken his pretty handkerchief.”
Ancient Viking: “What will you do with it?”
Second ancient Viking: “Meh, probably throw it into mom’s grave.”

13 Gil October 16, 2017 at 9:06 am

Anyone with good reading skills would have noticed that the best summary of the article is “we don’t know enough yet”.

The scientists don’t make the claim you (fail to) refute. It is just scientists doing science.

14 Capt. J Parker October 17, 2017 at 2:59 pm

Isn’t it more like:
Ancient Viking: “your handkerchief is pretty. I’ll trade you two non-islamic slaves for it and for one of your shiny steel swords.”
Second ancient Viking (whispering): “Too bad they have such nice shiny steel swords otherwise we could just kill them and take their pretty handkerchiefs. What will you do with your new shiny sword?”
Ancient Viking: “Meh, probably stick it into an Inuit and see if it is true that they don’t bleed until after they are dead.”

15 Peter Metrinko October 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm

I worked with Fred in the 1980’s at the FTC, and in addition to his high-powered intellect he simply was a nice guy. He always had a smile and a nice word. I’m also grateful to him because he was the one who interviewed me for a job there. The world needs more people like Fred.

16 Morgan October 15, 2017 at 3:50 pm

#2 Single tax travels with baggage.

#5 Footnotes are fun.

17 mulp October 15, 2017 at 4:19 pm

2. I read this as Arden being centrally planned by a government that denies it’s a government that block development by prohibiting development of half the land and dictating the land be unproductive, but a significant cost to residents of Arden by shifting tax burden away from the blocked by central government owners of property built on land the central planning government prevents being developed.

Look at how much low income housing for a diverse population developers could build on that unproductive land!

Or the land could be used for Amazon, FedEx, UPS, Walmart logistics warehouses, sorting, truck depots real estate.

18 anon October 15, 2017 at 4:30 pm

It is a good working definition of freedom that countries support weird experiments within their borders without freaking out.

Roll your own.

19 mulp October 15, 2017 at 4:53 pm

Conservatives and libertarians seem to only look at the communities of liberal pragmatic capitalists and bitch about the decisions the people with a lot of the money involved in building these communities made because they are contrary to those of the critics who have invested nothing, or very little.

Conservatives and libertarians offer great theory, but never invest in making theor theory real. Arden is an attempt to turn theory into practice but it ends up being no different than everything else.

Imagine severe drought hitting Arden followed by high wind stoking wild fires engulfing hundreds of acres in flames in just a couple of hours, with nothing to stop it, except a change in weather.

That would be Colorado and Texas a few years ago.

The current fires in California are in suburban and urban areas that are not embedded in tinder rich forests that can’t be allowed to burn normally or in controlled burns because of thousands of houses in these forests that historically burned every decade or so.

Note, 80% of zoning and 90% of building codes are written to satisfy property insurers, or adopted en masse from insurance industry building codes. If people in a community want to buy property insurance, they must satisfy insurance companies by adopting zoning and building codes.

20 Alan October 15, 2017 at 6:48 pm

Mulp, low income housing? You’ve never been to DE chateau country, have you. Nobody within 15 miles of Arden is likely to let that happen, even Joe Biden.

21 rayward October 15, 2017 at 5:18 pm

4. Were the Vikings a pure race? I don’t know, but today’s Gospel lesson, just like last week’s, makes it abundantly clear that the Jews weren’t. Last week’s Gospel lesson, from Matthew, was the parable of the vineyard. Today’s lesson, also from Matthew, is the parable of the wedding feast. In both, the Jews, the stupid Jews, God’s chosen, reject Jesus, and are eternally punished for their stupidity. Of course, it’s not interpreted that way. The parable of the wedding feast is interpreted as inclusive, that God accepted Gentiles into His Kingdom, rather than exclusive, that God rejected Jews (as Jews had rejected Jesus). It would have helped if Matthew had been clear that God didn’t direct Gentiles to punish the Jews, the stupid Jews, thereby avoiding two thousand years of persecution of Jews. Words matter, since they inspire both good works and unspeakable acts of violence. As for the Vikings, who is their Messiah?

22 So Much For Subtlety October 15, 2017 at 7:25 pm

It would have helped if Matthew had been clear that God didn’t direct Gentiles to punish the Jews, the stupid Jews, thereby avoiding two thousand years of persecution of Jews.

Helped whom precisely? I am with the Islamists on this – either you have a Bible-centred world view or you have a world view that involves reading part of the Bible on most Sundays. If you accept the Bible as central to your worldview then obviously it contains what you need to know. If God had wanted people not to beat up on the Jews, you might think it would have been mentioned. If it wasn’t, it wasn’t for a reason.

23 A clockwork orange October 15, 2017 at 8:10 pm

A barnburner is about small fires and when you hit a home run, you look at the pitcher. In its own right and in the same vein, it brings up notions of bog burial. I needn’t post here about the countess of Moira, but the central idea is that in the olden days, people found bodies and deemed them to be murdered, when they were simply ancient, and in-fact, buried. In this way, the barnburner, is epicene. Both hopeful and redundant. It is an endogen story as was the antiquarian Faulkner endogenous, sprinkled with blue mark from oil of vitriol.

24 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 8:21 pm

If God wanted us to abolish slavery…

25 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 8:30 pm

I guess the ghettos, the pogroms, all the period before Jewish emancipation were just coincidences. Who never forbade the Jews from having the same civic rights “normal” people enjoy cast the first stone.

“I am with the Islamists on this”.

Aside Muslims not eating pork, I am not sure there is a difference between America’s far-right and their Sunni allies. Maybe Muslims being able to claim a few philosophers, writers and scientists in their early days.

26 another skeptic October 15, 2017 at 10:34 pm

God will avenge Paraguay too. The nice thing about God is that he cares. Do you, in your little Paraguayan apartment, care? Of course you don’t. If you did the percentage of your comments that are true and kind and noble would be higher.

27 another skeptic October 15, 2017 at 10:39 pm

And by the way “truth seeker” – since you have said more than a 100 foolish things on this website, wasting my time (not that you did not have a few good comments here or there) – I can say this, from my heart of hearts – for the sake of my beloved Brazilian friends, I really hope you are, in fact, a citizen of Paraguay. The Brazilians I know would be ashamed to know what you are doing!!! Or trying to do. Which (Brazil/Paraguay) is another country which the Lord blesses and holds in his heart. Long live our beloved Brazil! Long live Paraguay!

28 anonymous October 15, 2017 at 10:40 pm

I love Brazil and I want you to do better.

29 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 10:49 pm

I do not live in a Parguayan apartment, I live in a Brazilian house, except when a visit my family in a Brazilian apartment. I am not a Paraguayan, I am a Brazilian citizen. My family’s one of the oldest Brazilian families, its history goes back to 15th Century Portugal. We are neither greedy American parvenus nor Paraguayan aggressors.

30 another skeptic October 15, 2017 at 10:51 pm

Long live America! Long live Paraguay! Long live Brazil!

31 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 11:09 pm

Brazil will rise again and make Paraguay pay!

32 another skeptic October 15, 2017 at 11:20 pm

Don’t let the Pigeon drive the Bus.

33 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 11:43 pm

Pigeons do nit drive buses, they fly.

34 another skeptic October 16, 2017 at 12:02 am

The pigeon thought otherwise. Hence the drama.

35 A Truth Seeker October 16, 2017 at 12:10 am

Yet, the bus driver knows the difference.

36 albatross October 15, 2017 at 10:48 pm

The New Testament doesn’t contain a lot of support for persecuting the Jews, nor anyone else. The fact that people later found support for every awful thing they wanted to do is more of a statement about human nature than about what’s written in the Bible.

37 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 10:52 pm

“The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.”

38 So Much For Subtlety October 16, 2017 at 5:24 am

I did not claim the NT did call for the persecuting of Jews. I merely pointed out that either our moral compass is determined by what the Bible says or we will decide what the Bible says is determined by the passing whimsical fashions of the day.

The idea that anti-Semitism is an utterly unforgivable sin is not one that anyone can find in the Bible. It is a modern post-WW2 fashion.

39 Judah Benjamin Hur October 16, 2017 at 1:40 am

I’ve always considered alt.Nazis and Islamists to be indistinguishable.

40 So Much For Subtlety October 16, 2017 at 4:51 am

Then you are not looking very hard. Although it is an argument many on the Left make. Nick Cohen for instance.

41 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 5:25 pm

Off-topic: Famous American drug dealer John Gregory Lambros is suing Rio de Janeiro State for having jailed him in the early 90’s. He asking a trillion dollars. Such a suit is illegal, Brazil is not under American jurisdiction. I ask every American to send a email for Mr. Trump asking to instruct the proper authorities to end this mockery of justice.

42 Real Talk October 16, 2017 at 1:26 am

You’re a lunatic.

43 Paraguayan October 15, 2017 at 7:15 pm

Were actual Russian trolls in MR comments in 2016, or just their speaking parrots?

This sounds like MR on late summer, 2016.

44 derek October 15, 2017 at 8:21 pm

I don’t remember any. Clinton trolls would show up regularly. They were pedantic and drab, boring and uninteresting. Compared at least to the Obama trolls who at least had the enthusiasm of the converted.

45 Paraguayan October 15, 2017 at 8:35 pm

It is tragic, Americans desired the tears of their compatriots more than being a strong and united states.

46 A Truth Seeker October 15, 2017 at 8:59 pm

The American worships the Almight Dollar.

47 Geoligist October 15, 2017 at 10:26 pm

Where the sandy, rum-colored Amazon farad gazi’s into the walnut-colored Rio Negro Solimões. So this is what sucker punch has become for the Justice of Peace Court.

This type of heresay is unaccountable. It can lead to murder. And worse, understatement in the trump era.

48 Anonymous October 16, 2017 at 9:10 am

When the indictments start dropping it is going to be truly funny.

49 rayward October 15, 2017 at 7:36 pm

1. The contributors to this blog are dependable supporters of peak pricing. I am a supporter of peak pricing. And that includes lawyer pricing. If Uber can gouge people after attending the theater, why can’t lawyers gouge people after a catastrophe? And what about doctors? if you are diagnosed with cancer (cancer!), why shuoldn’t the oncologist gouge you? If I am diagnosed with cancer (cancer!), I will gladly pay my share of the cost of the oncologist’s mansion in a gated subdivision. And I will gladly pay my share of the cost of his mistress’s condominium. Peak pricing! What’s your peak?

50 anonymous October 15, 2017 at 10:40 pm

This is a fake imitation of rayward .

51 Tom Warner October 15, 2017 at 9:44 pm

Re #4: Of course, a minute thinking about the consequences of sexual reproduction or looking at the shape of a genealogical family tree should be enough to teach anyone that there is no such thing anywhere as “pure race.” So whatever the underlying cause is for the sort of stupid that prevents so many MR commenters from grasping such things, it can’t be their race.

52 peri October 16, 2017 at 9:12 am

I was hoping y’all would bicker about #5 so that I might obliquely understand what was being talked about there.

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