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3. Are there any promising low-rent ethnic restaurants in this abandoned mall? And how will removal of the fish affect the quality of their seafood?

the solution to the dropout and remedial problem is very obvious and very politically incorrect: IQ tests. If you don't score high enough you don;t get free tuition. Second, community college is very cheap and the re already exist numerous generous financial aid programs at tax payer expense

It isn't obvious at all. When a high IQ student goes to a undermatched school, his or her odds of graduation go down. Incentivizing them to go to a community college full of people who barely passed the non-rigorous non-honors high school classes lowers their odds of achieving a bachelor's degree.

How do you know this?

Unfortunately, there is a high correlation between parental income and standardized test scores: http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/sat-scores-and-family-income/?_r=0

While there would naturally be exceptions, a policy like this would largely make community college free for relatively wealthy folk while those who come from the sort of background that can really benefit from community college would need to pay. Essentially, the worst sort of policy.

Then we can have lots of "smart" people who don't know how to work together arriving in colleges where "intelligence" is not necessarily a very good predictor of their ability to succeed.

High school extracurricular participation is probably a stronger predictor of success in college than IQ. People who turn to IQ tests are usually racist bigots. They should be considered as vaguely indicative at best.

I think the best use of IQ tests would be to identify the most "intelligent" 1-5% and cull them on a periodic basis before we get too smart for our own good and destroy everything. Not. But perhaps you get what I mean.

The criticism of Obama in '12 was that he was just all about giving away "free stuff". And he has reacted to that by... proposing more free stuff.

Well he did get re-elected, so promises of "free stuff" seems to work pretty well for Obama's popularity. And there's little to no down side, whenever he fails to deliver, he blames it on Republican's whether they were a factor or not.

President Guns AND Butter! No guns, though.

The "free community college" proposal is not so much about "free stuff" as a jobs program. After all, community colleges are mostly very low cost already, especially after students use already available financial aid programs.

But "free" is great marketing, and more students mean more jobs (and perhaps better pay) for those employed by the community colleges. It's politically relevant because these jobs often look more like public-school teaching jobs than university faculty positions in that they're often union, with automatic lifetime tenure after a few years.

Just because all too many students at community colleges will never graduate (and those who do may be trained for jobs that don't exist) doesn't mean it's not a jobs program. It's just that it's a jobs are for those who work at the community colleges and not so much for students.

Re: 7

I hope you like big plastic boobies!

Isn't #7 just prostitution?

Can't the same be said of marrying for money?

I feel like there's a material qualitative difference between "my interest in you is partly that you're wealthy" and "I will go on a date with you for a payment of $500".... :-)

Yeah, the former is usually is more expensive.

Really? Because if my wife had $500 for every time we've had sex, well, her retirement would be much better funded

It's funny 'cause it's true.

Payment is due at the end of the term

Well, joke's on her, then. My life insurance isn't nearly that valuable.

While in principle I like the idea, as a male I also think I am important and would like people to be able to pay to go out with me on equitable and commercially reasonable terms. So we could compare our rates and how much we liked each other, I would pay a woman if I liked her more otherwise I would need to be paid. It would be interesting to see if the market ever cleared.

The prostitutes are presumably more likely to actually, well, put out.

My interest in women who think I should pay them up front for the "benefit" of going on a date with them is definitely negative. But if it's just trumped up prostitution, then whatever, I guess that would work for some folks. I assume that someone who ends up with lots of stars puts out? Or what ...

Well, everyone treats Canadians worse than robots.

+2

Dude watch a hockey game the announcers all think the Canadians know what they are doing even when the little northern guys are losing the announcers think it is all some part of some big plan I don't know how much love there is in this world but when it comes to hockey love Canadians get more than their fair share maybe it is all that cheap icey real estate that they have access too I don't know but try growing up a couple hundreds of miles south of Canada how much hockey love are you going to get none I repeat none hockey love is a limited commodity and the Canadians year after year scoop it all up so stop feeling sorry for Canadians

"The problem is that getting students to enroll is neither hard nor important. The important task is to help students graduate. Community college drop out rates now hover somewhere between 66 percent and 80 percent."

Didn't the government recently (past few years) have a big issue with the private, for-profit universities that were engaged in tactics to get people to spend money on educational programs where graduation rates were under 50%? Should it matter if it's the person or their parents that are paying (or borrowing) or the general public via taxes?

I don't understand why this is a problem. If the goal is high graduation rates then the rigor of the instruction drops, meaning that the diploma is useless.

I have two employees working through the apprenticeship system in Canada. They are required to do so many weeks of schooling per year, which is provided through a community college. I am appalled by the poor quality of instruction. The courses and instruction seem to be designed to waste time.

I suspect that this initiative will result in it taking 14 years of schooling to be unprepared without the basic skills required to manage in the work force as opposed to 12.

You are precisely the person they need to rip up that curriculum. You know what you need. Why are you complaining here instead of informing us about how you are working with them to get better quality training which is more attuned to what you need out of your apprentices?

A contemplation - there was a time when social groups, parents, etc. actively tried to match up charming young women with "promising" men, where "promising" might mean "had a steady job" all the way to "likely to be a member of the elite".

Those institutions seem to have faded with the freedoms of the 20th and 21st centuries.

Are the constructions of #4 and #7 a sort of replacement for them?

[I went to college with a couple of women married to somewhat older (10 years or so) men of comfortable means who were paying their college bills. Of course, even marriage is historically at least partly about securing support for women and their children from reliable men (husbands)...]

Oh, and for another construction like this, google for an image of Bernie Eccelstone and his current wife...

#6- Oscar Wao was one of the funniest, most enjoyable books I've read over the last 10 years. Very happy to see it got to #1 on this list, for what it's worth. Did you read this Tyler? I was always interested in your opinion.

I searched for mentions of the top 12 in the MR archives and didn't see anything stronger than lukewarm praise for any of these authors or novels. Tyler has never said anything about Junot Diaz, actively disliked The Known World, was lukewarm on Wolf Hall, is probably still mad at Franzen for Freedom (I don't blame him), said that he didn't like anything Chabon wrote prior to the Yiddish Policemen's Union (and called Chabon's novels "trendy"), damned Egan with indirect praise ("it is enjoyed by most people who pick it up") and claimed that nobody would care about Zadie Smith in 30 years. The jury is still out on Atonement and Middlesex but Tyler didn't like The Marriage Plot or McEwan's last few novels.

I thought "The Known World" was terrific.

Oscar Wao I quite like, Atonement too, most of the list leaves me somewhat cold.

I'm a big Junot Diaz fan. "This is how you lose her" is very good as well. I've wondered if you have to understand Spanish to really enjoy the humor though. Made me laugh out loud on many occasions.

No other selections on that list made me nod in agreement like I did with Oscar Wao. Bolano should be far higher up than he is. Knausgaard and Ben Lerner should also be on this list somewhere.

My favorite new novel from the last two years was The Love Affairs of Nathaniel P., which didn't get much critical love either it appears.

That sugar daddies site claims to have trademarked the term Mutually Beneficial Relationships™. I'm going to file a patent on pareto improvements. As long as something is win-win I want a cut.

Meet the New Caliphate, same as the Old Caliphate!

Should I get on my knees and pray?

Wont get fooled again?

Just be careful who you are praying to! And do NOT pick up your guitar and play just like yesterday.

Well I wish they would just fffffade away.

But they won't. And so I hope a lot of them die before they get old.

The beards have all grown longer overnight.

#4B reads far too much like an unpaid* advertisement for the sugar daddy website. I wonder what's the value of the free publicity they've gotten from pearl-clutching articles like this.

*I, perhaps naively, assume.

Why does advanced education always seem to be designed to enable the student to move to a perceived better career rather than to improve their abilities in the career in which they're already working? Should all barristas become mediocre legal secretaries instead of good barristas?

#4 - Wow. What's that running down David's pants-leg?

At $4K over two years, you can cover community college just by forswearing cigarettes, tattoos and clubbing. The actual beneficiaries are the otherwise unemployable Master's and PhD holders hired to administer this boondoggle.

The actual beneficiaries are the otherwise unemployable Master’s and PhD holders hired to administer this boondoggle.

I'm pretty sure that's the point. At this juncture, unemployable advanced degree holders seems to be the Dem's deepest electoral stronghold.

If that's the case, wouldn't you get more jobs for less expenditure by pouring the money into think tanks?

I just do not see how $28,400 in debt is a big problem for most college grads. It is little more than a new car.

Not all of them get handed fat jobs out of the gate. Actually, these days almost no one does.

#4 the plan could work out well for the states because some spend so much less per CC student year than per 4 year student year. They could do like Florida and funnel most 4 year students to CC for 2 years. It would be interesting for some state 4 year colleges to only offer programs for the 3rd and 4th years and see if they can save money.

BTW maybe free community college will save parents from having to fill out those tedious financial aid forms.

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