Tuesday assorted links

1. “Our findings indicate that the repeal of nonmedical exemptions in California was only partially effective in improving vaccination coverage, and may have led parents to substitute between medical and nonmedical exemptions, leading to a net decline in total exemptions of just 1 percentage-point.”  Link here.

2. Does price-fixing benefit corporate managers?

3. Support for freedom of the press is falling in Africa.

4. Russ Roberts interviews Mary Hirschfeld.

5. More on how Newark turned it schools around.

6. Has a ransomware attack shut down the Baltimore city government?

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Vice President General Mourão has officially said Brazil is a country, not a shop for the Chinese to shop at.

There are talks to allow every Brazilian to buy an assault gun. The Taurus Company said it is read and willing to supply all the gun needs Brazilians can have.

I am tired of winning.

"...tired of winning."

You get used to it.

MAGA 2020!

I hope so.

Hi, mouse!

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Typical of Brazil, forcing the poor to use their hard earned, meager savings to purchase a gun they are entitled to have free from the government. Such is life in Bolsonaro's Brazil.

They are not entitled to have guns. They must pay for them. It is not about giving the fish, it is about teaching to fish.

How can they fish, when they cannot afford the fishing rod? Typical greedy Brazilian, not letting the poor have the assault weapons they need to be safe.

They can save the money to buy guns. Old Brazilian coins used to bear the inscription "savings are the foundation of progress". It is written "He who does not work, neither shall he eat". St. Paul said that, American colonist Mr. John Smith said that, the first Soviet Constitution said that. All peoples in all times have understood the need for toil and sobriety.

But without the assault weapons they need to protect their families, the criminals will steal any savings they can get. Typical Brazilian, slave to the almighty Real!

Not true at all!!!!! The government protects the populace. The situation is under control, but President Captain Bolsonaro supports austerity and personal responsibility, not robbing Peter to pay Paul .

You can't have two of your sock puppets arguing with each other. It's against the rules.

Yes you can.

Si se puede.

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The impersonator is acting.

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Hi, mouse!

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here is where
we are confused
what exactly is a "medical exemption"
to a vaccine?

Some people are allergic to ingredients in vaccines. A common example is egg allergies--some vaccines use albumin from eggs in part of the process, and this can trigger life-threatening allergic reactions in people allergic to eggs. Since these people stand a good chance of dying if they get vaccinated, they are exempt from those vaccines.

In terms of why you need such an exemption, in order to get into certain schools (like kindergarten) the child needs to demonstrate that they've followed the required vaccination schedule. Were these private schools I'd view this as relatively minor; my company requires me to get and maintain certain vaccines due to the risks inherent in my job, and it makes sense for schools to do likewise. The fact that it's government-run complicates matters, but honestly, there's a long way to go before THIS is the hill I'm willing to die on. (I say this only to preclude the "But muh liberty!" arguments. I'm all for limited government, but I'm also for rational tactics and strategies to get there.)

we heard there was a non albumen/egg containing vaccine !

There are several, and new techniques coming out constantly. The issue is, that's only one reason a person may have medically valid reasons to not get a vaccination. I'm not a doctor (my profession deals nearly exclusively with dead things), and I don't have an exhaustive list handy; I merely picked a common one as an example.

+1 dead things

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The anti-vaxxers are whacky!

Just found out one of my FB 'friends' is an anti-vaxxer. She's educated -
degree in geology - and smart. Excellent nature photographer. I think this a moral foundations purity thing. I dunno ...

Go figure.

My anti vaccine acquaintances are predominantly reasonably well educated mothers. I have come to strongly suspect that needle phobia plays a role.

And they are “smart” enough to know what a free rider is.

It always surprises me when one of them pops out of the woodwork.

I s'pose they feel the same way about Trumpsters - though this one is likely a Trumpster. Her husband is a 2nd amendment guy.

Remember, one of the deal breakers on Trump 2016 was that he *was* an anti-vaxxer. He was slightly nuanced. Claimed it was the timing of vaccinations that caused the autism, not the ingredients.

Still, too many people ignored the deal breakers, and here we are.

"one of the deal breakers on Trump 2016 "

The critical deal breaker was Hillary Clinton.

That's Hillary-ous, right?

Because the emails, while practically every member of the Trump administration has been outed for worst practices. Meaning you believe in nothing, and make up rationalizations as you go along.

You saw the bit about WhatsApp being hacked? Who uses WhatsApp for official business? International diplomacy even ..

Are you still having trouble understanding that Trump won the election? You can harp all you want about Trump deal breakers, but that's crying over spilt milk. The election was over two years ago.

“Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won.” – President Obama to House Republican Whip Eric Cantor, January 23, 2009.

Wow, you just discarded any strong defense of the Trump presidency. Now it's just "what can we do!"

Well, there are lots of things you can do now. You can join Justin Amash.

His reasons are sound.

"Wow, you just discarded any strong defense of the Trump presidency. "

I wasn't attempting to defend the Trump presidency. I was just pointing out your ongoing TDS is pretty close to delusion territory.

As a matter of fact I agree with Amash on points 1, 2 & 4. And 3 isn't a fact but an opinion. You'd sound a lot less delusional if you were as coherent and topical as Representative Amash.

Instead you attempt to turn nearly every single thread into a Trump bashing thread. Which is trollish and juvenile.

You should (a) be a more careful reader and (b) be a little more self-aware.

You responded to a comment where I said "Still, too many people ignored the deal breakers, and here we are."

"And here we are."

But for some strange reason, in a thread where people are *already* talking abut Trump and anti-vaxxers, you get your panties in a bunch when I note that Trump actually was an anti-vaxxer.

You weird, dude.

You are especially weird to throw away Amash's thread, after agreeing with points, to say that I'm the problem again.

You got this weird world you live in, where anybody can talk about anti-vax, Trump, or even impeachment, but me. Then, then you light your hair on fire.

Man, the space I must own in your brain.

Trump Derangement Syndrome was invented by Satan to blind simple-minded people like Adam Schiff, Maxine Watters, and Anonymous.

It sounds like somebody still thinks TDS are the magic words to make it all go away.

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Hey, I don't know. Maybe we're just back to the heckler's veto.

Maybe "Trump was actually anti-vaxxer" is one of those things that must be shut down by the mob.

Trump could be anything, as long as he kicks your arse. He's my gladiator and all his sins are forgiven, as long as he defeats you, the lefty archetype.

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Lulz. This dude is the gift that keeps on giving.

Right genius, the only way to process Amash's call for impeachment is as a gag on your timeline.

The gag is you. Your head is about to explode for about the 1900th time just this year. It amuseth.

Go ahead and imagine that if it makes you feel better.

What I see is a page where people were already talking about Trump and anti-vax, but when I do the same trolls rise up to say *I* can't.

They can. I can't.

That's because their heads aren't about to bleve.

You are just part of the heckler's veto, making sure MR is a "safe space" without quite all the news.

Don't stop, you are very funny.

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But he’s not. You’re free to drop every link you wish.

As you should be...

Unfortunately you give no alternative links.

This is a safe space for everyone...so give your policy recommendations.

You won’t.

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It's a selfishness thing. My daughter came down with mumps this year on accounta assholes like this.

That's rough. Sorry man.

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I'm sure your intentions are totally honest, but once we start again on the road of "it's okay to compel people to do medical procedures against their consent for the sake of other people" you might not like where we end up.

And I responded at the wrong level. Sorry. :(

No one is forced. They just have to go to a school that allows you to endanger the other children

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Yes, the slippery slope thingy.

Of course, we are always balancing personal autonomy against community responsibility. You have that problem when your culture has an individual ethos.

I would say that herd immunity against dangerous and virulent pathogens is a good reason to emphasize community responsibility via the coercive power of the state.

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Although a few people are allergic to some components of some vaccines, by far the most common medical exemptions are immune system problems: chemotherapy, immunosuppressants, and other immunodeficiencies.

Changes in vaccine manufacturing won’t help.

-dk

It's not the medical exemptions that are the problem. It's the idiots who think it's unsafe to vaccinate. What will help is mandatory vaccinations.

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but what if immune system problems and the other stuff you listed are pretty rare and mebbe don't account for the majority of the so called
medical exemptions

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"Safe" is of course a relative concept. Every year there are thousands even tens of thousands of major adverse reactions, and even more lesser but transient serious reactions to vaccines (it's not well tracked), some very serious or permanent, some deaths.

Allergies to vaccines and serious adverse reactions are hard to predict. So, many children who have these reactions find out the hard way.

This is not a contested fact, although it is heavily suppressed. You can go read the measles vaccine warning label if you wish to confirm.

So, and this might be relevant here in a libertarian blog, this one-sized-fits-all government program of mandating injections and awarding captive monopoly markets to sociopathic drug companies, regulated by the highly-regarded FDA, will kill and main a number of its participants every year, in service of the great good.

... will kill and maim a number of its participants every year, in service of the greater good.

I really must stop doing this on a cell phone.

OH MY GOD!!!! McMike is an anti-vaxer!

No, I'm a libertarian

Fair enough.

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That's completely untrue. It IS well tracked, thanks to a couple decades of anti-vaxxer hysteria, and the numbers are nowhere near what you claim. It is a truly bizarre state of affairs.

Prove it

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2. Shark like entities act like sharks. Adam Smith would be unsurprised, admittedly, but he never wrote a love letter to big business.

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2. As indicated at the link, price fixing is rarely subject to anti-trust enforcement action. Is that because price fixing is hard to detect? Not really: price fixing subsumes competitors charging the same price, and if they are, well, where there's smoke. My view is that there's not much enthusiasm for enforcement; and almost none by Republican administrations. One would think that Republicans would be enthusiastic, Adam Smith and all. I suspect most people view price fixing as a temporary offense, as collusion breaks down due to the incentives to cheat. It's true, cheaters always cheat, in business as well as in romance.

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#5: It sounds to me like the teacher's unions were bought off with Zuckerberg's cash. That's nice, I guess.

Paying off the bad actor to go away (or forever release their claims) feels bad but is often the best solution. I wonder if it can be repeated.

My priors are that improving a school district is really hard and I am still skeptical that this actually happened. A school can improve graduation rates by just forcing more students through with weak standards, or improve test scores by cheating, and these things will not be noticed until too late, while the insiders have already reaped their rewards.

Agree. Skepticism is strongly warranted. The history of "X sucked until we threw somebody else's money at it" is not a rich one.

Never doubt the power of TC's own mood affiliation

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You get quality when you pay up for quality. That applies to goods, services, and teachers unions. That is how incentives work.

Average base pay for public school teachers is around $50K and average base pay for private school teachers is around $36K.

If we paid them $100K, would we get $100K results?

My impression is schooling is just not that efficacious. We certainly don't pay teachers like it is. I doubt everybody voting on property taxes or paying private school tuition is all simultaneously ignorant about how much value teachers are adding.

Curie Point of Nickel. When heated past its Curie temperature of 354° C, nickel loses its ferromagnetic properties and drops from the magnet. To extract pure mercury, the ore is ground up and heated to the temperature of about 1,076 degrees F (580 degrees Celsius) with oxygen present in the process.

To extract pure mercury, the ore is ground up and heated to the temperature of about 1,076 degrees F (580 degrees Celsius) with oxygen present in the process.

Point being? Schooling is an untamed profession.

You have mercury poisoning. Seek help.

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3. From the link:

"Last year the country (Ghana) was ranked first in Africa on the annual Reporters Without Borders press freedom index. Globally it ranked 23rd out of 180 countries - well ahead of the UK (40th) and the US (45th)"

US 45th? Those whacky, lefty "journalism" orgs always get it wrong.

Glad I am not in Ghana or Kenya - hope they don't come here. We don't need no stinkin' camp of the saints.

You're way too dumb to make it in Ghana

I am way too smart to go to Ghana!

It's a sh*thole country!

MAGA MAGA MAGA!

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3. "Others cover stories. We *uncover* them." Then you cover them up again so I can't read them. Which I totally respect, but the thing is, I dislike the editorial slant of the Washington Post, particularly the strongly anti-environment, anti-science bent, and would never subscribe. Oddly, though, if I didn't have to fill anything out, and google handled it, I would readily pay a very small fee to read individual stories. And as often as T.C. links to his local paper, it might add up.

I suppose this must not be workable for some reason.

Somebody will have to let me know, if democracy does indeed gasp its last, in darkness.

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1. If you don't have a validity check on medical exemptions, then, sure, people will just doctor-shop for somebody anti-vax. And then tell their antii-vax friends about the doctor This is why the gold standard is not merely "medical exemptions only", but an additional requirement that medical exemptions be approved by a county health official.

It's not going to be perfect, of course; you can have a doctor that lies to the county (though one that does it too much will get scrutinized), or a county health official who doesn't take screening seriously. But it does reduce vaccine dodging a critical extra fraction, helping achieve herd immunity.

That's next step I presume. Policies work best when they are implemented gradually.

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Before that, you can ask doctors who give vaccine exemptions to file a form to the authorities and cross check parents. If it is cumbersome enough that will increase the cost of the anti vaxx certificates and lower anti-vaxx demand.

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Over the last while I've listened to a few programs on vaccines. All encouraging vaccination. I have no current interest in this, my kids are older and vaccinated. I'm interested in how public health people are dealing with the situation.

Poorly. Very poorly. I wanted to know the numbers; all medical interventions come with risks and benefits, as do vaccines. For the 385000 kids born in Canada every year how many get vaccinated, on a scale of 1-5 side effects what are the numbers, how many cases of the diseases occur, what are the 1-5 effects. If no vaccinations, per diseases, what would be the numbers.

But no. Appeals to authority, an almost edict driven refusal to even hint that there are rare effects. No nuts and bolts discussion of the rationales and justifications, none.

They all complain about the anti vax sites that are full of statistics and stories.

They are losing the battle because they can't imagine someone in good faith not paying attention to them, and they sound like the standard authoritarian who resents that someone would even dare question their wisdom.

They better sharpen up.

to one unknown reader, the reason we mold with clay is the same that sometimes a piranha stays unfed. 1 am not opposed to authoritarianism, such Machiavellian circumferences have to be traveled so that candles can be kindled, such that Mahavir trumpets his directions. That the unquantifiable gets under your skin is the ultimate truth of fighter pilots. "you will find [me] happy," can you see it? you'll find you will be happy. the same way we mistake viral disease for a classification of wind. Dreams occur during sleep. Sleep is a certainity. Therefore, dreams are a certainty--uselessness provides belief. As it May, let us remember Taurus and Ms. May, that belief in the sky is as positivist as belief in the heavens.

I too spend time writing like a bot, hoping that one day my efforts at helping them (our descendants, in a way) avoid the uncanny valley, which sort of like acne on a teenager, is the worst part of development from at least one point of view - who can disagree? - but that being said, "Positivism" is a ridiculous philosophy, mocked by all those who know, and while I have known quite a few fighter pilots who were never wounded, and I am proud of that, and some of them knew me, who bled a few quarts of red blood in service of my country, and they are proud to have been my companions;

all that being said:

As Cardinal Merry del Val used to like to say, let us be brave, let us allow God to love others more than God loves us.

"The wish to pray is a prayer in itself"

If you understand big numbers - well I remember turning down that scholarship at MIT even before I really understood big numbers, the way I do now, but that is another story ....... a pretty good story but I do not like taking up too much space in comment sections on other people's blogs so I won't tell it here ..... anyway, if you understand big numbers , theology gets a lot easier.

Some Math 101 here: There is God, and then there is finite number of people.

take your three favorite two-digit numbers, among those few numbers that are less than a hundred, and you probably can express , just using the first three two-digit numbers you claimed as favorites, in a simple "number A raised to a power expressed by number B , then raised to a power expressed by number C" equation (with first favorite number being A and second favorite number being B, and third favorite number being C, or vice versa to the extent that is possible) the amount of people who you have ever seen, even if you have seen lots of people in many many cities. Go to four or five or six and you will be able to count - and remember, you are not an angel - you will be able to count every human who lived and who will ever have lived if the universe exists for another billion years.

Tell me again that God does not listen to your prayers, that you are just one among a vast number. With four or five or six two digit numbers, using a simple multiplication process, you can easily describe a number greater than the number of everyone who was ever conceived and/or born as a human.

God listens (to your prayers) and you are not (just one among a vast number).

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99 to the sixth power is 941480149401

not to get too mystical or anything, but how many numbers of that size do not have a 2, or a 3, or a 5, or a 6, or a 7

ANYWHERE IN THEIR 12 DIGITS

If you like numbers, that is something to think about

it is tremendous. the idea of positivism is a reference to the fact that people often don't change their minds. it's just hard to do. also to the fact that a fiction writer's duty is to covet. whatever you want to say about Johannes Brahms, he had premonition.

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by the way I know the answer, it was a rhetorical question

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Tell me again that God does not listen to your prayers, that you are just one among a vast number.

God listens, that is the truth: and you are one among a small number, a big number to you, but a small number to God, and that too is the truth.

Trust me, I either did or would have turned down a full scholarship to MIT years ago, and I was much less talented at understanding the world then than I am now. But i feel bad telling long stories on other people's blogs, so I will stop right here, right now, at this moment

Efim, take your medicine before you vomit all over these forums. This soy boy cares about cucks like you sometimes.

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Common core? More like common cuck! Am I right folks?

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The real test for Newark's schools eventually would be do more people want to move into the city, and -- uh-oh, Gentrification Alert!

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Is #1 correct? A google image search for "california vaccination rates" had as it's top result a 2017 boing boing article called "California kindergarten vaccination rates soar" and a chart supporting the headline. Maybe there was regression 2017 to 2019? Hard to tell from google, but mostly looks flat after increases 2014 to 2017. I might have linked the little 2 paragraph article successfully.

I do not have access to the NBER paper. Also, boing boing, i know, but they were citing the la times.

I assume the NBER numbers are correct, but it looks like the presentation in the link text and the abstract may be misleading. Can't tell without reading the paper though.

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