Here goes, I had a blast chatting with Cardiff, most of all we revisited my 1998 book In Praise of Commercial Culture and discussed some of the major issues facing commerce, the arts, and progress. In some ways that book is the initial root of “Progress Studies,” at least from my side of the equation. And my study of 15th to 18th century patronage, as was necessary to write that book, gave rise to later plans for Emergent Ventures and Fast Grants, in conjunction with others of course. Recommended!
And here is Cardiff’s podcast more generally.