Why is the UK so expensive, redux

by on August 20, 2006 at 3:55 pm in Economics | Permalink

Welcome Sunday Times readers from London, here is the original post, sorry for all the spam in the comments.  Here is the Times article on that post.  Here is a New Economist summary of the piece.  Now we need to work on why Denmark is so expensive…

James Grimmelmann August 20, 2006 at 5:26 pm

I’d say there’s high demand for Denmark and a very limited supply of it.

AJE August 20, 2006 at 7:31 pm

Tyler – the Sunday Times is a national newspaper

Dave Barnes August 20, 2006 at 11:37 pm

My question is: Where do I find the scholaarly paper that answers this question.

My anecdotal experience is that London is twice as expensive as Paris (its competition for my tourist dollar).
Twice as expensive for meals in restaurants.
Twice as expensive for hotel lodging.
Twice as expensive for public transport (Tube vs Metro).

This is what baffles me.
Paris has wicked building restrictions.
France has wicked labor laws (Code du Travail).
Metro workers are state employees and get paid a lot.
Both London and Paris have communist mayors.

,dave

Paul Meyer, Editor - Rip-Off Britain August 21, 2006 at 7:03 am

I applaud Professor Cowen for his Blog, but suggest both he and the contributors head for my website, Rip-Off Britain: http://www.rip-off.co.uk

Although I don’t claim to have ALL the answers as to why the United Kingdom is so expensive, as compared with many other countries such as the USA, the outrageous tax on fuel (gasoline), other taxes such as high import duties, VAT (sales tax) and property taxes, uncontrolled commercial rents, high property prices and gross profiteering by multi-national businesses (who deem us as ‘Treasure Island’), has much to do with the regime of high prices – which I might add has been this way for the past 50 years!

Has anyone ever wondered why British banks are the most profitable in the World? Recently five of Britain’s biggest banks unveiled combined profits of more than £19 billion!

Of course, the UK is not alone. Many other European countries including The Netherlands, Ireland, Denmark, Italy, Austria, Sweden & Norway also suffer from high prices.

Brits DO complain about high prices, but because we live on a small island we can do little about it. Even if one takes off to other European countries to buy ‘cheaper’ goods, UK Customs restrict certain items one can bring back to the UK without paying high import duties – regardless cross-border shopping is basically unrestricted within the European Union!

The situation can only get worse. With a previous Government estimate of 15,000 migrants from the new EU entrant counties – which NOW is in fact 600,000 – and with the entry of Romania & Bulgaria in 2007, the strain on local services, housing, etc., can only increase prices and unemployment.

Perhaps the only viable solution is to join the 350,000 Brits who are leaving the UK each year!

Keep the debate going.

Regards,

Paul Meyer
Editor, Rip-Off Britain
http://www.rip-off.co.uk

nick August 21, 2006 at 8:02 am

About half the people I know who work in Copenhagen actually live in Malmo, Sweden & commute daily into Denmark, because of the comparative housing costs (& good transport links). Anecdotally I’m told this is a quite new & growing trend, but I don’t have any stats.

Foolish Jordan August 21, 2006 at 9:45 am

“It’s very expensive compared with Spain. As you spend £1 here you would pay in Spain €1. Everything just costs too much. We’ve been eating hamburgers to save money.†

I wonder if there’s a psychological effect here. For example, maybe it’s just human nature that a sandwich, say, is worth “5 units of currency”, and so that means a $5 sandwich in the US and a 5 Euro sandwich in Paris becomes a 5 Pound sandwich in the UK… and since Pounds are so much bigger than Euros or Dollars, the sandwiches suddenly become expensive.

F. Sutton August 21, 2006 at 12:29 pm

I was interested to see the article in the Sunday Times about prices in this
country. Having lived here for nearly thirty years and seeing the constant
rise in prices I can only wonder how the majority of the population manage to
get by. People do complain but only to each other over a cup of tea or a very
expensive pint of beer. There is such a thing as safety in numbers which the history
of this country will bear out but complacency has now set in and the government
is quite keen to capitalize on it at every turn. Greed plays an important
part in the equation as told by the uproar when the minimum wage was finally
introduced here a few years back. Many businesses forecasted bankruptcy
because they would have to pay workers a real wage rather than rake in all
the profits. Of course this hasn’t materialised as all they did was raise their
prices to ensure they still made out. I don’t see how these people make it when a gallon of
fuel for their car costs around what they make per hour. Just watching
television is a taxing experience because you must have a tv license to
cover the costs of only the BBC channels when there are so many more to choose from.
Mumbling amonst themselves won’t get anything done but over a cup of tea or a good pint
you can only discuss the weather for so long.

will mcbride August 21, 2006 at 6:12 pm

Tom’s right, price discrimination is an important factor. But price differences of this magnitude indicate some highly monopolistic markets in the UK. And my experience is that prices are just about as outrageous all over the UK, including Scotland, and in Ireland as well. I figure the Isles have a kind of monopoly on healthy economic policies. Liberalizing economic reforms happened faster there, in part because of the parlimentary system. The continent remains a relative backwater with overbearing regulation, and the US is an ocean away. The US doesn’t have such high prices because of the much larger geographical area and diverse market. Yes, NY is expensive, but if you can’t afford it you just move to a cheaper city, like Atlanta. I don’t think the UK can maintain such high prices, but that it has for so many years is largely due to political rigidities on the contintent. Already, as mentioned, Brits are leaving at the rate of 350,000 per year, which will tend to reduce prices.

Bill August 22, 2006 at 6:31 am

Having recently spent several weeks in the uk after a gap of @ 10 years i was absolutely staggered by the cost of food and accomodation, we tried to stay as much as possible at B&B’s but how can someone justify charging 200 pounds sterling for two people for 1 nights stay at a B&B? this was all mainly in the south of england, we actually went to rick steins restaraunt in padstow and saw the prices there for food, we declined the experience, he has a kitchen shop selling a plastic salad bowl with various plants encased in the bowl, this cost 64 pounds, the spoons to go with it cost 24 pounds making 88 pounds in total or (132 euros), i bought exactly the same items in france last year for 25 euros (17 pounds)a nice mark up. He should be called rick einstein as he is making money at the speed of light.

The price to enter the various tourist attractions to me seem to out of control, the final straw was at warwick castle, where if memeory serves me right the entrance fee was 35 pounds each, we simply turned around and headed north, the prices slowly decreased as we headed to the north of england and scotland.

We avoided london completely, i have to say that it is a great place to visit if you are from overseas as in quite short journeys there is a lot to see both historical and countryside wise, but first remortgage your house before you plan to go there.

dimitri zenghelis August 22, 2006 at 9:56 am

RIP-OFF BRITAIN? IF YOU ARE BRITISH, YOU ARE LAUGHING!

The true sign of whether Brits are being ripped off is whether growth in their ability to purchase goods and services is slower than in the comparable countries. Prices are certainly part of the story, but only a part. Nevertheless, let’s start with prices as they form the crux of this discussion.

Rents and over-crowding have something to do with high prices in the UK: supply for living space faces tight demand, and these high costs percolate through the economy. (A big mac in central London is expensive because McDonalds needs to pay Westminster rent). But to talk about Britain being a “rip-off†, or “uncompetitive† or “unproductive† is simply economically illiterate. By looking only at nominal prices only, one misses a key part of the living standard (and productivity) equation: income.

Take for example rents. Rents push up prices, but they are a transfer, not a real cost. The owners of property do very well at the expense of those who need to rent services. This may explain why foreigners in particular feel justifiably “ripped-off†. But to say the same of UK owners of property would be disingenuous. The fact is, people seem prepared to pay these rents.

To put this another way, British citizens would be being “ripped off† if the differential between incomes and consumer prices (purchasing power) rose more slowly than in non-“rip-off† countries. But this seems not to be the case. Measured on a purchasing power parity (PPP) basis (which accounts for differing prices of good as services internationally) the Brits have been doing relatively well: according to the OECD they seem to be getting richer faster relative to most their European counterparts. They are able to consume increasingly more of the goods and services they are supposedly being ripped-off over than their trans- Channel/Atlantic cousins.

To recap: British real incomes and real purchasing power has been rising faster than in most rich countries because nominal incomes (the sum of wages and capital rental income) in the UK have been rising faster than UK prices, and the excess of income growth over prices has been faster than in most European counties and possibly (if you believe the latest National Accounts revisions) faster even than the US over recent decades.

So no rip-off for the Brits. What about competitiveness? This applies only to tradeable goods and services. If, under market exchange rates (which is above the PPP estimmate), UK goods are that much more expensive, why does anyone buy them? Good question? The UK has a trade and current account deficit, and many European nations do not, but as a proportion of national income, it is a third the size of that in the US. This suggests that for whatever reason, consumers internationally still want to buy UK tradables. This argues against the “poor quality† flabby markets (bovine consumers) story.

Finally, in so far as the nominal exchange rate is above the PPP rate (which simply means UK that goods really are more expensive when compared in a common currency) this also benefits the Brits at the expense of visitors. UK consumers have greater purchasing power and firms an improved terms of trade. Many Londoners, for example, could rent or sell their flats and live well in Thailand without needing to do another day’s work in their lives. The really interesting question, then, is why don’t they?

The answer to the “rip-off” question, therefore, is Brits are doing very well thanks! Yet prices are high. Not least because foreigners are very keen to buy British products and services, and invest in British assets (including moving to, say, London and pushing up rent and property prices further). They could always vote with their feet, and their wallets, and ditch the UK, as indeed could the Brits. Then prices and incomes would surely fall, but until then, Brits should celebrate their world-beating increase in purchasing power! But I suppose it is in their nature to whinge?

Dimitri Zenghelis

trevor ellis October 19, 2007 at 5:29 am

i wish i knew why the cost of sustaining ourselves is so expensive?
more and more i am noticing how expensive basic food like ham and chicken is.
asda in my opinion is the worse when it comes to overpriced food.
they have the nerve to charge over £3 for 6 small round pieces of chicken wrapped in a small piece of bacon stuffed with cheese and leek.
it just puts me right off when i see the prices for so little.
and in 2 months time you will see the price of food go sky high because its christmas and once it is over it’s back to high prices for so little again.

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Barry December 15, 2009 at 11:13 am

Roast chicken and a small one at that is €7.50 roughly £7.00 on the costa blanca Alicante,. and thats of a market stall last time I was in asda it was two for £5 granted you have to cook em yourself.

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