QUICK: If you imagine where things will go with Fannie and Freddie, and
you think about the regulators, where were the regulators for what was
happening, and can something like this be prevented from happening
Mr. BUFFETT: Well, it’s really an incredible case study in regulation
something called OFHEO was set up in 1992 by Congress, and the sole job
of OFHEO was to watch over Fannie and Freddie, someone to watch over
them. And they were there to evaluate the soundness and the accounting
and all of that. Two companies were all they had to regulate. OFHEO has
over 200 employees now. They have a budget now that’s $65 million a
year, and all they have to do is look at two companies. I mean, you
know, I look at more than two companies.
BUFFETT: And they sat there, made reports to the Congress, you can get
them on the Internet, every year. And, in fact, they reported to
Sarbanes and Oxley every year. And they went–wrote 100 page reports,
and they said, ‘We’ve looked at these people and their standards are
fine and their directors are fine and everything was fine.’ And then
all of a sudden you had two of the greatest accounting misstatements in
history. You had all kinds of management malfeasance, and it all came
out. And, of course, the classic thing was that after it all came out,
OFHEO wrote a 350–340 page report examining what went wrong, and they
blamed the management, they blamed the directors, they blamed the audit
committee. They didn’t have a word in there about themselves, and
they’re the ones that 200 people were going to work every day with just
two companies to think about. It just shows the problems of regulation.
QUICK: That sounds like an argument against regulation, though. Is that what you’re saying?
BUFFETT: It’s an argument explaining–it’s an argument that managing
complex financial institutions where the management wants to deceive
you can be very, very difficult.
Here is a good article on what the mortgage agencies have been up to.