This is not not a dog

by on March 29, 2009 at 8:38 pm in Education | Permalink

Dog

Tyler Cowen March 29, 2009 at 8:41 pm

I thank Yana for the pointer!

anon 2 March 29, 2009 at 8:53 pm

…and why do we care?

Towel art?

Paludicola March 29, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Ceci n’est pas une pipe either.

Martin March 29, 2009 at 9:22 pm

So it is a dog?

The Other Eric March 29, 2009 at 9:45 pm

Great comment Paludicola.

Interesting ethical questions about how much we humans can tamper with dog breeds leads to similar questions about tampering with ourselves. If we want to select for extra folded funkiness in our canines how far down the slope is paying for extra tall or smart kids?

The Other Eric March 29, 2009 at 11:35 pm

Athelas, neither dividing line is a line. Genetic engineering is, in fact, genetic engineering– the planned manipulation of genes. Breeding takes longer, but is no less dramatic in effect.

Animals are different from humans? (That just tells us you don’t belong to PETA.) If we use pig parts to repair humans (skin, joints, and heart valves) then are they, following Orwell, more likely to be researched and preserved perhaps at the expense of other species?

Cows and horses are eight and six times larger than they were 3,000 years ago. Turkeys and chickens are massively different from what they were 70 years ago.

We’re only getting faster and more systematic at our engineering efforts. There is no other difference.

Vernunft March 30, 2009 at 12:16 am

“Animals are different from humans?”

yes a genus is different from a species

jim March 30, 2009 at 12:22 am

Cool. I wonder how crazily we could breed humans. Could we double our size? Well, many fat people manage that already, but I mean height, not rotundity. Pelts would be cool. Or flippered feet for swimming.

Tiny people are obviously doable since they already exist. I wonder if a 15 ft human would be possible.

Given a human a dog’s sense of smell would be cool. That seems plausible but probably not with breeding alone – we’d need direct genetic engineering.

xan March 30, 2009 at 1:59 am

“Blankets in Everything”

Leif March 30, 2009 at 4:09 am

Nor is it a can opener

8 March 30, 2009 at 8:54 am

How does it taste?

Pam March 30, 2009 at 10:23 am

there are always trade-offs with genetic mutations and engineering. There have been extremely small and large people and they typically have serious health problems. Many dogs and cats that are bred to extremes (like pugs and persians) end up with health issues as well, like respiratory problems. Even engineering for intelligence may not have only positive effects but some negative ones as well that we don’t foresee. It may be that common sense or some social skills will suffer in the balance or other physical ailments may accompany these adaptations. Many think it is alright to experiment like this with animals but not with humans, though it seems like it’s getting close to inevitable given where science is going. It just bothers me that as a society we don’t think ahead and make decisions about these things BEFORE they happen… laws are only made AFTER something questionable or tragic happens seldom, if ever, in time to prevent it. And often once the cat’s out of the bag, so to speak, it is difficult, if not impossible to put it back in!

Yi March 30, 2009 at 11:07 am

Geithner in a couple years?

Yan March 30, 2009 at 2:23 pm

It takes a Chinese to recognize a Chinese. It is a Chinese Shar Pei.

Spider March 30, 2009 at 6:08 pm

Yancey Ward – Good one, that made me laugh.

wow gold sellers March 31, 2009 at 4:00 am

Okay, with the title totally wrong what is that thing then?

May April 5, 2009 at 11:21 pm

What breed is this? I would like to have a dog like this. I think it will be very cuddly.

laura p. February 5, 2010 at 3:56 pm

the name is shar-pei

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