Markets in everything

by on August 9, 2011 at 1:29 pm in Games, Law, Sports | Permalink

In the UK, I have heard they prefer cricket, yet on Amazon sales of aluminum baseball bats are robust.

For the pointer I thank Chris F. Masse.

Jeff J August 9, 2011 at 1:42 pm

Aluminum baseball bats outperform wooden cricket bats in the middle of a riot.

November2012stimulus August 9, 2011 at 1:42 pm

I am sure that sales will be increasing in London right now. Perhaps the ATF can sell some defensive weaponry to the embattled citizens.

Brandon J August 9, 2011 at 1:51 pm

Softball has been becoming quite popular here in recent years. There is always a game or two being played in Regent’s Park in the evenings across from the Cricket pitch. No fences, no backstops, and the football players are usually just past right field.

Adrian Ratnapala August 10, 2011 at 2:23 am

Rounders is centuries old, looks like baseball and is played more often than cricket, at picnics etc. Still I expect an anticorrelation in the ownership of baseball bats vs. Iorn fireplace pokers.

Andrew' August 9, 2011 at 1:55 pm

As are the expandable baton.

Careless August 9, 2011 at 5:14 pm

Looks like someone got Amazon to pull the baton from the market, its page is dead now. And there’s a post on the top-selling bat requesting a temporary ban on sales of the bat.

Rahul August 9, 2011 at 2:23 pm

There seem uncanny analogies to the Arab Spring. This time too social media seems to be fanning the rioting and helping rioters organize. How does one distinguish between a bad riot and a good riot?

david August 9, 2011 at 2:34 pm

Whether the middle class joins in.

TallDave August 9, 2011 at 4:14 pm

The ability to vote?

zbicyclist August 9, 2011 at 11:02 pm

Excellent question. Spin. But who’s spinning, and why?

One might wonder why there has been no substantial violence in the US directed at banks/bankers, i.e.the people who got us into this mess. Just to clarify: I’m not advocating violence, just wondering why so clear a target has been spared.

doctorpat August 10, 2011 at 1:44 am

Maybe the same reason animal rights groups attack women wearing fur and not Motorbike gangs wearing leather.

The upper level bankers can [afford to] protect themselves.

Rahul August 10, 2011 at 9:58 am

It takes many angry at many to riot.

Everyone angry at a few causes a lynching.

josh August 10, 2011 at 3:28 pm

There is no such thing as a good riot. What good could anyone possibly think is going to come out of Egypt?

k August 9, 2011 at 2:45 pm

Or, people don’t buy cricket bats online

Or, most people have a cricket bat already and so % change is not relevant

Or, this is a misleading number. Top 100 bestsellers in sports & leisure have almost no sport equipment – only generic clothing.

If you go by price, the price for a cricket set is 15 pounds, while for baseball set is 9 pounds. The price for a helmet – surely this is comparable across sports – is 20 pounds for cricket, and 30 pounds for baseball. If you assume an inelastic supply curve, then this is evidence of greater demand for cricket.

k August 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm

wait no

you can’t say anything unless you can figure out what moves one curve and not the other

scratch the above comment

addicted August 9, 2011 at 6:17 pm

Its because of the riots….

Rahul August 9, 2011 at 2:53 pm

Google Trends reveals an interesting 10x spike in search volumes for “baseball bat” since the start of 2011 in UK

http://www.google.com/trends?q=baseball+bat&ctab=0&geo=gb&geor=all&date=all&sort=0

Any ideas what caused this? “baseball” alone doesn’t show a corresponding spike. Weird?

k August 9, 2011 at 3:45 pm

it seems too sudden and out of the blue

unless suddenly people starting looking for baseball bats

big jumps in a dataset are usually indicative of the data sampling process changing, i.e. no fundamental shift as to what the data are capturing but a shift in how it is capturing information

Andrew' August 9, 2011 at 3:11 pm

Duggan was a passenger in a minicab when the cab was stopped Thursday evening by submachine gun-toting officers from Scotland Yard’s Operation Trident — a special operation “dealing with gun crime among black communities, in particular drug-related shootings.”

This is why you don’t just hand out guns…to police.

Rahul August 9, 2011 at 3:51 pm

The police actions do seem very suspicious. The IPCC report says:

There was a suggestion that officers could have come under fire from the car carrying Duggan.
However, the IPCC said Tuesday that there is no evidence Duggan opened fire at officers. The IPCC also said a bullet lodged in a radio in an officer’s pocket was police issue.

Adrian Ratnapala August 10, 2011 at 2:31 am

This is the media summarising innacurately. When I saw the IPCC findings read out on TV they were (from memory) “… there is as yet no evidence that the gun was fired…”. I don’t know what, if any other evidence could be expected. And nothing was said about whether he was pointing the gun at police. We still need to wait.

Andrew' August 10, 2011 at 5:29 am

Noone will get the irony even after I smash it on the nose. Guy shot in anti-gun raid causing riots and increased sale of baseball bats.

Rich Berger August 9, 2011 at 3:34 pm

From Ace of Spades-

“When the law abiding don’t have guns, they have to settle for second best, Louisville Sluggers. Just remember, using an aluminium bat on a looters skull is cheating. Real men use wood. ”

Always a better source than lil’ Ezra.

Adrian Ratnapala August 10, 2011 at 2:34 am

In that case I’d stick to cricket bats. Doesn’t quite have the heft, but lighter is quicker.

Rahul August 9, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Do American police have similar options if needed? Can arbitrary searches ever be made?

The police introduced special powers in four areas of London on Sunday — Lambeth, Haringey, Enfield and Waltham Forest — allowing stop and search without reasonable suspicion in a bid to keep rioters off the streets.

Michael Rome August 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm

No they do not.

Mark August 9, 2011 at 6:44 pm

Mostly, no but…
(1) I believe under martial law, the police essentially have all these powers (but may be legally considered as military or something, don’t know).
(2) Functionally, this DOES happen. Look at stories from New Orleans after Katrina.
(3) Drunk driving checkpoints are clearly cases of stop and search, no matter what some bizarre legal reasoning says. (“search” as in searching a person for evidence of intoxication based, which must be a form of search except to lawyers).

TallDave August 9, 2011 at 4:13 pm

I’m a fan of pepper spray myself. A bit less manly, yes, but quite dramatically efficacious in my experience.

Invisible Finger August 9, 2011 at 4:58 pm

I have several -5′s that can’t be used in league play anymore, many with stress cracks. Finally a market for them!

bunker brown August 9, 2011 at 6:42 pm

Baseball bats, especially aluminum, are lighter, and easier wielded, rather than cricket bats. you can swing a person at any angle and make damage-cricket bats are harder to swing around. You can also stuff the baseball bat in your coat pocket while you grab stuff.

Adrian Ratnapala August 10, 2011 at 2:47 am

Cricket bats are light enough (I thought they were lighter, mea culpa). Angling them is easy enough too.

bunker brown August 10, 2011 at 3:26 am

We should have a contest

jk August 9, 2011 at 7:16 pm

So is the data pointing to defensive use or smashing windows or both?

RM August 9, 2011 at 7:24 pm

I love cricket, but the truth is that the Brits prefer football. Go to a cricket ground and chances are that you will see a kid kicking a cricket ball, even as hard as it is.

RM August 9, 2011 at 7:28 pm

For those of you wondering where on-side and off-side comes from (if you clicked on the link), I have heard that it really has to do with the side of the road Brits drive on. Facing forward, on-side is to the left of a right-hand batsman, just like a baseball batter. “On-side” comes from parking the wheels of a car on the curb. “Off-side” comes from the fact that the other wheels are off the curb.

MP August 10, 2011 at 5:05 am

Seems unnecessarily complicated. The on-side is just the side the batsman is on. The off-side is the side he isn’t on.

TD August 10, 2011 at 12:33 am

Using cricket bats for anything other than batting is “just not cricket”. http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/not+cricket.html

Rahul August 10, 2011 at 3:48 am

They are quite useful to kill snakes with.

Seth C August 10, 2011 at 5:04 am

But for zombies, Simon Pegg tells us that the cricket bat is king.

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