The Hispanic high school graduation rate is increasing

by on August 20, 2012 at 4:19 pm in Education, Uncategorized | Permalink

The number of young Hispanics enrolled in college, which surpassed black enrollment for the first time in 2010, jumped to almost 2.1 million last year, from about 1.3 million in 2008. That is partly a product of a swelling Hispanic population, as well as the increased rate of college attendance.

But it also reflects a fast-rising high school graduation rate. In the 1990s, fewer than 60 percent of Hispanics 18 to 24 had a high school diploma, but that figure hit 70 percent for the first time in 2009, and 76 percent last year.

Here is a bit more.

IVV August 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm

Although I got my high school diploma, my brother and sister dropped out of high school after three years, adding to the dropout rate for Hispanics.

Now, they dropped out because they matriculated into the colleges of their choice, but hey, what do reasons matter? Incidentally, they also skipped eighth grade.

mulp August 20, 2012 at 7:04 pm

You aren’t a drop out if you get the diploma.

Ape Man August 20, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Well, I have heard that some people can get through collage without a diploma. My brother got on the Presidents list before the collage figured out that he did not have a diploma and they made him get a GED.

Alex August 21, 2012 at 12:47 am

I never earned a diploma or equivalency, and I’m now halfway through my masters in engineering.

Doc Merlin August 21, 2012 at 7:40 am

Rand Paul was a college drop out, because he was accepted to medical school early.

albert magnus August 20, 2012 at 5:03 pm

Don’t people stay in school during economic downturns?

C August 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm

Not sure the graduation rate statistic is relevant. The only way it could be is if this was a proxy for IQ rate but the evidence that it is is very weak, especially given the dumbing down of the curricula and the strong incentives states have due to NCLB to massage upward the grad rate.

The Original D August 20, 2012 at 11:45 pm

How is it that curricula are being “dumbed down” but IQs are going up?

Miley Cyrax August 20, 2012 at 11:57 pm

Why not both?

Cliff August 21, 2012 at 12:12 am

Not g-loaded, unfortunately

Miley Cyrax August 21, 2012 at 12:30 am

@ Cliff

G-loaded or not, the Flynn effect seems to have largely abated in Western nations. It’s likely some function of nutrition, since the Flynn effect and population height increases coincide together. So hispanics (especially the very short Mexican Americans) look like they have some room to grow in both departments, and perhaps a little left for East Asian Americans too.

American whites and blacks, however, have been holding firm at 5’10″ or so for a few decades now.

Li August 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm

Isn’t the amnesty offered by the DREAM act conditional on either military service or college attendance?

So in the past several years as amnesty-for-college has been a topic of national discussion, the hispanic college enrollment rate has gone up.

Seems obvious what is happening.

IVV August 20, 2012 at 6:28 pm

When was the DREAM Act signed into law?

Steve Sailer August 20, 2012 at 8:26 pm

No, the change since 2008 has more to do with the current lack of jobs for unskilled workers, especially the lack of construction jobs. Kids who would have happily dropped out to earn money are taking juco classes out of lack of more appealing alternatives.

It’s worth keeping in mind that many of the more responsible and motivated Mexican-Americans are often _more_ likely to drop out of high school or college because their culture values paid work highly. (By the way, the rise of unpaid internships as gatekeeping devices for determining who gets into many occupations hits Mexican-Americans especially hard because they value work for pay so much.)

Ape Man August 20, 2012 at 9:04 pm

I would have to say that this is the explanation I would go with as well. Although I would not discount the fact that there are lot of Hispanics who are starting figure out that White Americans have an irrational attachment to stupid pieces of paper that don’t really prove anything.

Miley Cyrax August 20, 2012 at 10:24 pm

“Although I would not discount the fact that there are lot of Hispanics who are starting figure out that White Americans have an irrational attachment to stupid pieces of paper that don’t really prove anything.”

They do signal that you were able to get into and graduate from a particular institution, which is far more than nothing.

If employers switched to IQ or IQ-like tests from credentialism I suspect there would be a lot of histrionics…

JWatts August 21, 2012 at 1:00 am

“If employers switched to IQ or IQ-like tests from credentialism I suspect there would be a lot of histrionics…”

In any case, requiring IQ tests for employment have been ruled illegal in the US. Though obviously College degrees are acting as a proxy for IQ tests in many cases.

Ron Strong August 20, 2012 at 8:09 pm

Useless information without providing data by generation. As time goes by, more hispanics are second, third, or later generation US residents/citizens. Of course those who have longer family histories in the US will have tended to assimilate towards American norms.

Tell us how have the graduation rates have been changing for first generation hispanics, for second generation hispanics, etc. Also, break it down by origin. Cuban immigrants have done quite well in the US. Compare their trajectories to that of Mexicans.

Steve Sailer August 20, 2012 at 8:30 pm

Generations of Exclusion by two sociologists with the UCLA Chicano Studies center looked at a large sample of Mexican Americans in L.A. and San Antonio covering four generations in the U.S. There was a sizable jump in the number of years of education from the immigrants to their second generation, but, in contrast to Ellis Island immigrant groups, the third and fourth generations didn’t get more schooling than the second generation.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/roll-over-michael-barone-even-fourth-generation-mexicans-are-failing

Ape Man August 20, 2012 at 9:07 pm

Did the forth generations coincide with the housing boom?

Ape Man August 20, 2012 at 9:09 pm

Fourth. You can tell that my I.Q. is not that high.

Non Papa August 21, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Did the authors attribute the lack of education among third- and fourth-generation immigrants to a want of respect for/interest in education? A failure to assimilate into American cultural norms? Or other factors?

Steve Sailer August 20, 2012 at 8:12 pm

The Hispanic high school dropout rate was very high during the housing bubble because there were so many construction jobs available.

Rahul August 21, 2012 at 2:19 am

How does all of this tie in with your thesis about Hispanics being genetically low intelligence and hence bad for the nation? Or is this development orthogonal to that hypothesis?

Dismalist August 20, 2012 at 9:55 pm

And the average high school education sucks. If you’re going to drop out, drop out early!

I agree muchly with those above claiming opportunity cost. Wise latino’s!

Steve Sailer August 20, 2012 at 10:46 pm

My guess is that the actual high school graduation rate has improving in this century, although it has always been a methodologically difficult problem to track, with both highball and lowball estimates put forward by different parties. A half decade ago, James Heckman estimated high school graduation rates over time using seven different longitudinal studies. He found that the overall (all races) high school graduation rate had peaked around 1969 at 80%, then dropped to 75% by the end of the 20th Century. The majority of the worsening was due to demographic change in the population.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-real-dropout-rate-and-why-some-students-should-drop-out-of-school

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