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Your ideas on signalling are always interesting and informative….but,
you focus a lot on signalling to others…..the more fascinating aspect
is the signalling that we do to ourselves…..and why.

I deleted the comment anyway, to prove to myself I am tough and that I abide by the "no spam" rules. 
Behind it was a link to a German site selling computer products.

I assume that above comment was written by a human being.  A' la Turing, I wonder when the average quality of spam comment will exceed the average quality of a non-spam comment.  For many blogs (not MR), we're already there.  Can you imagine blogs competing to capture greater and greater quantities of spam, as a way of "paying" for good comments?  Or how about captchas which only let through spammers and discriminate against most others?

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That exact comment was on Robin Hanson's blog. See http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/09/thursday-on-mens-rights.html#comments and scroll down to commenter Monica.

Speaking of which, someone recently spammed Robin Hanson's blog, and I posted a satirical reply that somehow didn't go through. Here is what I tried to say, mocking the spammer's form:

Hi!

Congratulations! Our readers have decided you're a worthless PoS spammer. SpamHaus has compiled an exclusive list of the top 100,000 spammiest sources and we are glad to let you know that your domain was included! You can see it at getacluemoron.com

You can claim your incarceration time here: http://ftc.gov

P.S. This is a one-time notice to let you know that you are engaging in inappropriate and probably illegal use of this blog. You might get more notices if you keep this crap up.

P.P.S. If for some reason you want your reputation back, just quit spamming people and REMOVE the contents of your mailing lists.

Cheers!

Silas Barta
Genius Extraordinaire
Setting Things Straight
http://silasx.blogspot.com

I wrote a blog post about social software that engaged the genuine interest of at least one spammer: they wrote a thoughtful comment directly related to some of my central points. I deleted the URL (to a poker site), and let the comment through. It's preserved for posterity here, if anyone wants a mild chuckle: http://michaelnielsen.org/blog/shirkys-law-and-why-most-social-software-fails/#comment-13560

The idea of the spammer's comment is treated in the movie LIAR, LIAR, starring Jim Carrey.

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This is an intriguing post. It makes me wonder why my friend Sandra whitened her teeth in less than ten days for under $5. She looks great but was it for everyone, me, or herself?

Well, as I was the original commenter on Robin Hanson's blog (as per comment 1 above) I can attestify to being human (unless I am part of some grand Turing conspiracy). However, despite being an avid reader of this blog as well as Robin's, I did not post a similar comment on this blog. So, it looks like my original comment was hijacked and used as the basis of a spam. Perhaps, what we have here is a spam formed from the fusion of human and machine intelligence....maybe this is part of the evolution of spam. Not sure I am proud to part of that parentage.

So it sounds like the spam goes something like this:

1. Find blog posting that allows comments.
2. Search the web for another blog posting on the same (or a similar) topic that allows comments.
3. Grab a comment from #2 and post it on #1 with a spam link in the hopes it will be allowed through by a human moderator.

#3 would be a lot more effective if the spam link was at least tangentially related to the topic in #1. Maybe that will be the next evolution...

That is because it was not constructed by a machine...but by me!!....see above!
But how did it get through Tylers Turing Test, Robin as far as I can remember does not have one.

what _is_ a comment? could someone pls explain?

i suspect these spambots are trolling blogs for comments that gets replies, and using the same comment on other similar blogs. that keeps the spam "fresh". what we loathe more than spam... is stale spam.

Don't be fooled readers, 'Monica' is a bot!

Ahm....I don't think that I am a bot....do you have external information that might prove to me that I am a bot?

Ahm....I don't think that I am a bot....do you have external information that might prove to me that I am a bot?

Posted by: Monica at Sep 25, 2009

Yep ... definitely a bot.

Anyone have any ideas about how to construct a captcha that *only* a bot could get through?

good~!

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When Google crawls this page, it basically ignores the URL and any links in the the comment text. In order for the spammer to benefit, they have to persuade human readers to follow the link, so contributing meaningful content is perhaps the only way.

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