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Any guesses on what the follow up headline might be?

To #4

I'm going to paraphrase Aeschylus from memory. (I like various translations, but Ted Hughes' is vivid.)

A laughing farmer brought home a lion cub. It sometimes slept in his arms.

It played with his children, and his neighbors gawked at this marvellous pet.

But the lion nature would not be denied.

Thus one day there were screams from the house and blood flowed from under the door.

Exactly. As the old song goes,
"Now they both got what they wanted, please take note—
The bear a full stomach
And the man a fur coat.
It's the truth, can't be denied,
For the hunter ended up on the bear's inside.
The hunter didn't know,
Tho' he'd often heard
That bears hardly ever keep their word.
He's on the missing persons list
Since he tried to co-exist... "

I got nothing for a headline, but the lion/teddy bear mashup means I'll have my least favorite Elvis song stuck in my head for a couple hours.

I love how all you cucks keep coming on here to whine about your cuckoldry!

We are a proud community of cuckolds. You are welcome to enjoy our wives because they sure do.

#4. The lion owner could consult Melanie Griffith for tips.

Exactly my first thought! Here’s a photo reminder.
https://www.higherperspectives.com/melanie-griffith-1406175353.html

1. Gross.

3. Why not? If you can find a buyer, go for it.

4. Fun. Until it isnt.

5. Those wacky Canadians!

6. My spouse gets terribly upset if he doesn't get a proper thank you. He won't donate again. A call would probably freak him out, however.

I hate donating money to someone and then getting harassed as a reward.

Do you think fascism is great? Do you think nuking totalitarian regimes is wrong? Maybe this text will change your mind. https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/29/tokyo-keeps-defending-world-war-ii-atrocities/?utm_source=PostUp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=13382&utm_term=Editor#39;s%20Picks%20OC

Conscription is technically forced labor. Nobody claims it was an atrocity. So why Japan has to be forced into saying their use of forced labor is atrocious while the Allied use of forced labor is ok?

I think you are ignoring the well documented fact that Japanese forced labor was particularly atrocious with deaths and rape being common.

https://www.history.com/news/comfort-women-japan-military-brothels-korea

"According to the Korean historians, approximately 670,000 Koreans, were conscripted into labor from 1944 to 1945 by the National Mobilization Law. About 670,000 of them were taken to Japan, where about 60,000 died between 1939 and 1945 due mostly to exhaustion or poor working conditions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Japan

Well, a 10% death rate is lower than a lot of armies in World War II experienced. How would we feel about Japan conscripting ethnic Koreans and sending them to fight on the front line instead, perhaps in one of those Pacific island battles where virtually everyone on the Japanese side was killed?

There does seem to be a strange disconnect where we think that forced labor in the armed services during war is okay, but forced labor in industry during war is an atrocity.

I see. Stalin and Hitler were great. After all, they were just conscripting workers. Totalitarianism is alive and well in Trump's America.

That in fact happened. The Koreans were used as forced labor to dig the trenches on Tarawa and many other Islands. The few prisoners the US side made were Koreans.

There is no moral difference between the Japanese regime and the Nazi regime.

Good people on both sides.

I can't agree. My mother's uncles fought the Nazis.

I'm sorry your family are anti-fascist social justice warriors.

I'm sorry you are a stupid fascist.

And Brazil supported the fascists until the U.S. put a stop to it. Sad.

Not at all. America sent Zionist children to Hitler's oven. Brazil helped Zionizts escape Hitler.

Calling them "Zionists" just reinforces the point.

No, it doesn't.

It does.

No, it doesn't at all. "Zionist" comes fro "Zion", an old name dor the Zionist Entity.

2. Boys all, you will not have read Eleanor Estes' "The Hundred Dresses," which totally prefigures this, and more beautifully. I read it probably a thousand times. A subtle lesson, one that would perhaps be too subtle for a children's book now. She had no dresses at all, as it turned out, but she had something so much more. And there was no attempt to turn it into cheerleading: "You have it too, little reader! You go, girl!"

6. Call? No, uugh. A call usually goes, "We appreciate so much your recent donation, and now ask you for more." A letter, surely, is customary, and doubles as a receipt: although at the non-profit that employs my husband the army of young women whose job is or should be donor relations (and the women are very turf-y), find such writing, and whatever slight clerical work is involved, difficult or tedious, and being asked to do something by a man off-putting to their sense of sang-froid, and so put it off to the point they would neglect it if he didn't keep after them.

#6. For someone who gave in response to mail or email, why would anyone think they'd be phone-responsive? Mail donors who receive thank you's by mail with a response device to give again will of course be more likely to give again than those who are not thanked with such a response device.

Cuck much?

The Punjabi basketball culture that is Canada: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-die-hard-raptors-fan-who-embodies-the-best-of-toronto-its-not/

6. After a routine service, my auto dealer completely harasses me (by phone, text and email), seeking to confirm my satisfaction.

If this somehow works, normal people are weird.

Though perhaps the simpler answer is that the dealer is weird. He has a CRM product, and is determined to max it out.

Nailed it in your final two sentences. I introduce a new CRM product via a consultancy. All the key metrics are designed to perpetuate the product rather than to evaluate profitability. (That's why marketing emails, for example, are evaluated on "engagement" (clicks, site visits, portal logons, etc.) rather than on, you know, money.

Why does this happen? Because by introducing a successful-by-definition CRM product, I get promoted, the consultancy gets a lucrative new contract, the lower level managers get to increase FTEs to manage the implementation, and the individual contributors get to spend a week in Orlando at the annual "user's conference."

Everybody wins, right? Almost everybody...

#4 I want the follow up story in few years.

I think the lion is eating too much "Babbar the lion already weighs more than 168 lbs and wolfs down 17lb of raw meat every day" and will die of obesity. But, I hear, if you keep most predators well fed, they won't attack you, unless they feel like it (cats kill for fun). A lot of these animals don't know their owns strength. A pet chimp can rip your arm (or other body parts) right out, and they have. I myself keep many pets in our PH home, I even had a monkey for a while. We have cobras (not pets) on the property and they are fearless, will sometimes slither right up to your feet (they are promptly dispatched when we see them, I don't care if these PH spitting cobras are endangered in parts of the world).

Plus, there are domesticated animals and there are wild animals. House cars are minimally domesticated, when they want to be. Lions not so much. I'm familiar with dogs. Pack animals they learn their places in a home. Except when a new member comes in like a little child. Watch that dog to see he doesn't try (usually not too aggressive) to show he's ahead of the baby in the "pack."

Minimally, I'd have the beast de-clawed and de-fanged. Then, he'd be drugged with his feed. Probably not enough. Lions mostly kill by clamping down on the neck/wind pipe. I wouldn't underwrite life insurance for a lion owner.

Imagine the size of that litter box!

Ray,

You shoot cobra?

Interesting point about life insurance.

Is creative bookmaking legal in Pakistan like it is in Britain (where celebrity death pools are a thing)?

The Paki-Lion-Kill-Pool would be the shizza!

@Dick the Butcher - no, I'm anti-gun, but I wish I had a birdshot small calibre single shot shotgun in the PH (like those cool Italian double-barreled engraved shotguns). In PH guns are strictly regulated, but every security guard has one (and the guns they carry don't have safeties I notice, and/or one in the chamber, since gun battled happen on occasion). Do you hunt rattlesnakes Texas Dick? What caliber shotgun would you recommend? I like something not too powerful, to avoid a "Dick Cheney" incident.

Cmon you got to know about the venerable .410. Small, quiet and truly useful. Forget the d*ckheads with their magnums. A rural landowner needs a hunting rifle, a .22 and a .410, for starters.

F*ck you. I love my magnum all 20 of them.

@G.O.T. - got guns? Thanks for the pointer, interesting. Apparently there are some .410 bore guns that shoot both shotgun and 22 calibre cartridges, interesting. (Wikipedia): "American Derringer has long offered .45 Colt-.410 bore Derringers.[10] Bond Arms also offers various Derringer models which chamber both .45 Colt cartridges and .410 shotshell." Snake charmer!

How do you kill snakes, blade or club them? Either takes more guts than a firearm.

Small-gauge shotgun cartridges, like 28 gauge and .410, are soft recoil and ok for close in work, like blasting snakes.

I am not in TX. My son is in So. Louisiana. They have cotton mouths and water moccasins. He doesn't shoot them b/c they keep down rodents; once in a while one eats an egg. He has, among others, a Glock semi in .45 cal. and a 12 ga. pump; and 10 acres with a couple beef, two pigs, chicken/turkeys. He has a rifle range set up; skeet too. Using a night scope, he assassinated a wild pig one night. Filmed it thru the scope. Processed 80 lbs. of smoked sausage.

I think one can get revolvers mounted in that .410, but there would be recoil.

I understand shooting snakes in the PI. Boredom, right? Plus, there are no liberals.

Let me be clear, I am saying because you don't have any liberals to murder like I do, you must be bored.

6. I was married to a Southern girl who was a member of the Junior League. If you aren't familiar with Southern girls and the Junior League, you won't get this. I would often tell this joke: Why don't members of the Junior League participate in orgies? They'd have to write all those thank you notes.

well, was she a musician or not?

She didn't care to blow a horn, but she could really sing a tune at times when she felt the pleasure of it. When we were married, to my disappointment we didn't venture South. That's what I remember. Maybe our Aussie friends can explain, they being from down under.

Seems as if everywhere south of Interstate 10 in Louisiana is almost six inches above sea level and 50 yards away from a bayou or a swamp.

My son's in-laws (down there) are lovely people.

I've been on the road in the South and would see the "red hat" ladies at luncheons.

re #6 - for some of us ALL PHONE CALLS ARE ANNOYING. the phone is something ONLY to be used when other means will not do. calling me on the phone to thank me for something is mostly a way to make me angry.

Also, since a large fraction of the phone calls I receive are simply robo-pests of some sort, I don't generally answer the phone anyway.

#5) Well that was nice even with the obligatory slap at "right-wing populism." I still fondly call up those Bonino goal calls when I need a laugh and a tear.

(Even better than the BoninoBoninoBonino vs San Jose was his BoninothegoalBoninothegoal Bo...neeeee....nooooooo! vs. the Caps.)

Here they are:
https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-nick-bonino-goal-call-in-punjabi/c-280848194

The Pens already have hockey's funniest announcer, Mike Lange, but they also flew in Singh for their Stanley Cup parade that year

Savor it while you can. The last 24 hours were Peak Populism. After the triple whammy of the Mueller Report, the USS John S. McCain incident, and the "helping me to get elected" tweet, there is simply nothing left for anyone with any dignity to defend.

Right! That and dem socialists' campaign speeches: "Of course, we are going to raise your taxes and you will lose your jobs."

It is interesting that you go to "the socialism," because I think Tyler might have gotten there ahead of you. One way to interpret MR is that maybe six months ago they classified Trump as toast, and started positioning their arguments against the future Warren administration. Naturally, I think that was premature. There was still work to be done, for democratic foundations. There still is.

And as far as fears of Warren and the socialism .. don't tie yourself in too much a knot based on your own paranoia.

We saw how that worked out last time.

Warren? She is working very hard to be Hillary but with less personality.

A boring President, how .. terrible?

We can discuss this more fully when Tyler's new Bloomberg piece is linked (which I hadn't seen when the above was written), but I think one error is thinking that Trumpian Populism is some kind of stable half of the American psyche.

It is less than half, and the bottom is dropping out.

You'll be crying again in 2020.

The true Trumpian Populists are few, but this is indeed the problem. It is still about tears for them, and not any kind of moral nationalism set against an equally moral cosmopolitanism.

This is how Tyler misses his center in his new piece.

Here is a background piece, on the surface about the IDW, but really about competing ideas of "centrism."

Oops

https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/30/intellectual-dark-web-collapsing-contradictions/

IDW is against "postmodernism" but the fact that they have so many conversations about meta-conversations means they don't realize how "postmodern" they themselves really are. They have sharp intellectual tools but only the foggiest idea on what to do next.

The Muller Report said Trump was innocent of any wrongdoing. TC wrote a post about who the winners and losers were and never looked back.

Your daily TDS is most undignified.

The past 24 hours have been a splendid confirmation of my priors. How could anyone possibly be informed and think otherwise?

Dignity? We are cucks here. What makes you think we have dignity?

Mike Lange is indeed a regional treasure.

5. Interesting that Punjab in india had been in the forefront of "Field" hockey during its Gold medal winning days. The olympic margin of victory record was India defeating the US 24-1 .

#3 Real money for virtual goods? I'd rather buy the three magic beans.

But if #3 works, can #6 be extended to cover real money for virtual charities?

It dawned on me that Tom was going through his memory, that this was something he had barely thought about. As though he had figured out a way to recall an event only upon speaking so to not dilute its import. Oh, how had I plagued my experience. A dubious proposition perhaps but if you look at history and extract a single thing and it is this, life is fleeting. Patience, meditation, discipline, how I had sought to control my mind. What if it had been the other way? What of the memories I’d tucked away, or of the thoughts I had put off the books? Was I capable to finally bury them? To conquer them?

It is just as likely we evolved from a unification of the species, or of the animal kingdom of which man is but one elevated version. Then thoughts, dreams, nightmares are a channel for the same unchangeable experience. It is when we sleep, we are most ourselves. And experience molds our memories since memories become unreal, and one has to understand the sky without color. Memories are a lens through which we view, part of the sense organ for belief. No matter how hard we try to assert control through wealth and children and technology, it remains the same.

I imagine the Punjabi hockey announcer wondering why the field is white, and why the players are wearing helmets and funny shoes.

srsly somebody counted all those leeches??

#1 made me think of this:
Russ Roberts: After you've bought the leeches, you've spent all that can.
Robin Hanson: You get the best leeches, imported leeches not just the local leeches.

http://www.econtalk.org/hanson-on-health/

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