Sunday assorted links

1. T.S. Eliot trove of letters to be unsealed.

2. The Mayans: “Hey all: you realize that researchers just used lasers to find *60,000* new sites in Guatemala?!? This is HOLY [expletive] territory.”

3. Are blackboards underrated?  Not by mathematicians.

4. Buried bog butter.

5. Against contempt.

Comments

"whiteboards, a medium she sometimes uses but dislikes for being harder to clean"

What? The reason I prefer whiteboards is because they're easier to clean, provided you're using relatively fresh markers. Erasing chalk always leaves behind a layer of chalk.

Plus I'm always completely covered in chalk by the time I'm done with a chalkboard. Having some ink on my hands doesn't bother me at all, washes right off.

The boards are not as important as the markers. I much prefer the old-style grease pencil to the dry marker.

My relevant and insightful comments on links 1 through 5 are that I do not like the POTUS. And I am outraged, especially by the lack of outrage.

Additionally, none have a connection to economics.

This troll is really damaged.

Little kids are dying in Syria specifically because an American president greenlighted a genocide, and to the troll's most pressing problem is that somebody, somewhere, might say something about it.

Christian Leaders Say Turkish Invasion Of Syria Raises Risk Of 'Genocide'

I think you have it backwards. It is Erdogan who is fighting there not us. But it seems you would prefer that it was American troops dying there. For what???

The whipsaw of liberals going from anti-war to McCain style pro permanent occupation. Probably the saddest and most ironic of the shedding of principles.

Partisan on, you clown. Partisan on.

The sad thing is, this level of stupid is no different than US Presidential leadership, this morning.

I’m sure your children are all veterans or currently serving in the combat arms. Just like you served in Vietnam.

Chickenhawk.

Like the President, you mean?

He’s a draft dodger, Cadet Bone Spurs. Can’t even remember which foot. Has he started any wars yet?

So that is it. Chamberlain is in charge.

Has Pelosi prepared a declaration of war yet? No, I didn't think so.

So is it like that? Now, that the Kurds did our dirty job for us, we need a declaration if war? It is funny that we didn't need one to supply the Mujahideen with weapons.

Don't fret, little d00dz. The attorney general will explain this all in his next letter.

I couldn’t care less what Evangelical preachers think about US policy in any area, much less Northern Syria. The withdrawal was ill planned and executed poorly but this has no effect on the long term outcome.

The equilibrium has always been the PKK signing an agreement with the Assad regime. It was never going to end any other way.

Mark my words PKK will come to an agreement shortly, semi-autonomy for officially coming under Ba’athist control. This will keep Turkey to the buffer zone.

Just curious, have Trumpian populists always supported Muslim on Christian genocide, as "the long term outcome?"

Is that why they prepared by opposing Syrian Christian refugee resettlement?

I’m not a ‘Trumpian populist’ nor a Christian, so this is either a misreply to someone else or you are simply mistaken in your assumptions.

Regardless, I fail to see how a “Christian genocide” is in the cards at all. PKK signs a deal with Assad, that keeps Turkey inside the buffer zone. Mark my words, this is the equilibrium.

Anyways, the Assad regime power base lies in its religious minorities, Alawite, Druze, and Christian. They are among the least likely to commit a genocide against religious minorities as any player in the region.

Your knowledge of Middle Eastern demography and politics is somewhat lacking, friend.

It's good to know that you are on the case.

Hmm, you or Michael Smith ..

"Erdogan just got played by Putin. Now Putin’s pal Assad will probably control areas Putin wanted him to."

https://twitter.com/MichaelSSmithII/status/1183505724497956864?s=19

Really the worst thing you can do is argue from your own expertise while behind a pseudonym. The last time you did that I linked you to a Foreign Policy article which argued the opposite.

Or maybe you aren't in this for the US or the Kurd's interest. Your long term view certainly favors Putin and Assad.

Yay team?

Unlike you I actually know who Michael Smith is. Because this is my area. You know why he was fired from his fellowship? Many reasons. But...

Here was the last straw in his termination with cause:

Smith: “We know wheh you sreep, rouwound eye. And who you sreepy with!!!”

That’s what you get when your expertise is from Twitter.

Note the jump from genocide to “cutting a deal with Assad.”

Well no shit. I’ve been saying that’s the end game from day one. The alternative is a permanent US presence.

The President paints this as binary choice.

You are painting yourself as smart enough to know it is not.

There are more than two choices here.

“The president paints...”

I couldn’t care less what he paints or why. The odds that he understands any of this are close to zero. He picked up a phone, ranted about hotels, and agreed to something with consequences he did not understand while I imagine his erstwhile aides dry heaved and dreamed of a different administration.

I don’t care about the point scoring. Take it to the bank, he’s a terrible president with the intellectual heft of a seven year old. Great. I wasn’t a supporter before and won’t be after this.

But if your only interest in this is to damage Trump’s credibility, I think that horse has been dead for three years if not three decades.

We agree. Great, now we can move on.

I care about our actual security interests. There is no good option in northern Syria. A plausible least worst equilibrium is semi-autonomy for a Kurdish government who denounces the PKK. Basically what the Kurds have now across the border in Iraq. Peace of a sort, at least.

A permanent presence of tripwire forces on the border is, however, untenable. The PKK would eventually cross the line and put American lives in the insane situation of defending a terrorist organization from retribution from a NATO ally.

Do you actually care about this at all, or is this just another rotten tomato to throw? I’m suspecting the latter.

What a bizarre argument. In the middle you stick complete defense of my case:

"A plausible least worst equilibrium is semi-autonomy for a Kurdish government who denounces the PKK. Basically what the Kurds have now across the border in Iraq. Peace of a sort, at least."

But you bury it, and accuse me of being partisan, for wanting just such solutions.

Dude you win, you trolled me.

I get it, I engaged and you trolled.

Don't know what game that is, but if you and I both knew there was a more humane solution more in the national interest..

Why didn't you argue for that from the beginning?

Sir, I get it I lost. You trolled. I. responded to your trolling.

You win sir. The fact that I never changed my position is irrelevant. I know. You’re here to troll!

Godspeed !

Now, *that* is the ad hominem fallacy.

If your entire argument is argument from Twitter authority, the fact that said authority has been fired for cause for multiple reasons to include blatantly racist social media posts then it’s certainly fair game.

See if you had any professional expertise, you would never have quoted a terminated buffoon in the first place.

There must be dozens and dozens of neoconservatives you could link to. Bad luck ?

That's gibberish.

Okay, I get it. I got trolled again. This is the same dude as before, isn’t it? anonymous?

Lol. Ok man, I should have realized when you quoted the racist buffoon who got fired.

Mea culpa, and congrats. Bravo, you push all the right buttons, the pseudo earnestness, the belligerent lack of understanding of the region and the players, and then using the Black Sheep fired racist as the foreign policy authority.

Brilliant. Bravo sir! Happy Columbus Day!

Do you just not realize when you're losing it?

You win sir! Consider me trolled.

Have a great weekend.

The Kurd's Commander in chief, at FP:

"We know that we would have to make painful compromises with Moscow and Bashar al-Assad if we go down the road of working with them. But if we have to choose between compromises and the genocide of our people, we will surely choose life for our people."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/13/kurds-assad-syria-russia-putin-turkey-genocide/

But as we are seeing today, that choice is not something simple and bloodless.

Not “the Kurds.” The PKK.

Equating all Kurdish people to a US recognized terrorist group is pretty senseless, and offensive.

You are arguing with the FP introduction, not with me.

I’m not arguing with either. I’m correcting.

Note that the Kurdish authority in Irbil is tacitly approving of the Turkish intrusion.

Have there ever been weaker words than "is tacitly approving?"

Tyler tacitly approves of Thiago.

"Pentagon chief says Turkey "appears to be" committing war crimes in northern Syria"

But hey folks, as long as someone tacitly approves!

Bravo! The troll we deserve.

You had me until Smith. Brilliant, man. Really.

Happy Columbus Day.

Yawn.

Where "troll" is defined as someone who tells you true things you don't want to hear.

In this case from the Pentagon, on war crimes.

So anyway people, note where "Woah" starts and where he ends up.

According to him in the end we had to yield to Putin and Assad, and anyone who dies in the process today .. well, it was "was ill planned and executed poorly but this has no effect on the long term outcome."

Putin: 1

America: 0

Some people, like Richard Haass, are saying that we need to pull US bases from Turkey at this point. Maybe, but that might be

Putin: 2

America: 0

Brilliant trolling. I love it. You really had me, since this is my life’s work and my passion. Fantastic exploitation of emotional investment and patriotism as a veteran.

Sorry MR for falling for it so easily, I should stay away from comment sections.

Happy Columbus Day! Have a beer for me.

This isn't about you or I.

We are not the ones dying today.

This is about whether there was a more humane solution more in the national interest.

And if we, as citizens, should demand it.

I am outraged by your outrage over the lack of off-topic expression of outrage on this thread!

They called me mad. They called me insane. They called me looney. They were right!

Of course, in the moral contest between the lives of innocents and the purity of topics..

Topics win every time.

Because expressing outrage over the lack of off-topic expressions of outrage in the comments section of MR will save the lives of innocents!

They called me mad. They called me insane. They called me looney. They were right!

"The reason why we call certain types of injustice “systemic” is because they’re everywhere and invisible"

Systemic injustice is the sociological equivalent of Carl Sagan's invisible dragon. Got it.

Yes, this sentence was a really confused. The author doesn’t understand was systemic racism is. Briefly, the idea of racism is that people have racist beliefs or attitudes. This leads them to have racist behaviors where they bias or favor some races over other races. However, some people noticed that institutions and rules can also have biases towards certain races, and so they coined the concept of systemic racism. It’s different from normal racism because clearly institutions can’t have attitudes or beliefs, But they can behave as if they do.

The word “systemic” is sometimes used in the sense of pervasive or all-encompassing. And I think the author is understanding the word in that way. And so the author means by “systemic racism” the idea of racism being so pervasive that you don’t notice it, like a fish not noticing that it’s wet. The author’s anecdotes about her non-black boyfriend not being served at a bar is clearly not systemic racism, but it makes sense in her understanding of the term.

In short I’ve given a long explanation of how the author is confused and misunderstands words. And this is only in the first few paragraphs. Obviously, I didn’t read any further

3. Are blackboards underrated?

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No -- but dusty classroom nostalgia is greatly overrated by some.

people cling to old habits & things that they grew accustomed to... regardles of more objective judgements.
Chalk Blackboards are in the same category as old fountain-pens and slide rules.

Dry-Erase Boards are vastly superior to old blackboards in several areas -- and you can easily get a "black" dry-erase board (rather than the more common whiteboard) ... if you prefer that visual presentation.

I disagree with your "objective" judgements, as a user of both fountain pens (there are periods where I handwrite 30+ pages a day, not having to press down on the page is crucial to this not being a painful endeavor).

Also, dry erase board residue feels disgusting.

Have they fixed the problem that chalk boards don't have: leaving writings on the board for weeks and months?

A good slate chalk board could be completely erased, with doing and water even after writings in chalk had been on the board for a year. The newer "improved" chalk boards weren't so good.

The white board markers were lucky to last a meeting of engineers working on a problem, or planning a project. Then the white boards were destroyed when the bean counters issued orders to cut costs by freezing office supply budgets. The permanent markers lasted far longer, plus they were the only ones in the supply cabinet.

Clearly no MBA program used either chalk boards or white boards in group meetings. It was always the MBAs giving orders that led to white boards being destroyed.

We could stockpile post-its - unlike whiteboard markers, they still worked if they had been bought 2 years ago after the freeze on office supplies was lifted, but a year old whiteboard marker was useless fresh out of the package.

Whiteboards are luxury goods. Useless unless you can spend money freely.

With chalkboards, we simply used smaller and smaller bits of chalk as the budget year ran out. The new year was a shock with a full box of shiny chalk that took time to be broken in so it wouldn't screech.

This is just one of many aspects of how MBAs and their economics teachers are totally detached from reality. How cost cutting drives up costs.

people cling to old habits & things that they grew accustomed to... regardles of more objective judgements.

Or, people are quick to discard proven things and techniques and embrace faddish novelties that have yet to reveal their inadequacies.

3.) This has been going on for a while now. The LIDAR results at Angkor Wat were equally spectacular.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/laser-scans-reveal-massive-khmer-cities-hidden-cambodian-jungle-180959395/

We fiddle with LIDAR while the world burns. Let’s laser scan Trump instead.

Noteworthy: Almost three years of accusations and not one Trump denouncer has committed suicide.

They're waiting to see how the end game on his haircut.

The article is over a year old.

Correct, there've been articles like this in the popular press for years now. It's very cool stuff, but I'm not sure why it's getting so much press recently, e.g. the NYTimes also had an article recently -- instead of doing yet another expensive custom map, the archeologist found that a geographic office in Mexico had done lidar scanning and makes the maps available for free.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/science/archaeology-lidar-maya.html

It's clear that there are a number of archeologists who are using this technology, each article seems to name yet another set of archeologists, but ignores the others who are also using lidar.

The problem with dry erase boards is they are usually cheap material and erase poorly as they age. Glass boards are more expensive but drastically better, at least as good as chalkboards.

5. Today's gospel lesson is the story from Luke (Luke 17, 11-19) of Jesus healing 10 lepers. The lesson is that all of us suffer from something, whether leprosy or insecurity. It's what lies beneath the surface that matters. Lepers are subject to contempt, separated from society because of what's on the surface. Jesus cured 10 lepers, but nine were cured only on the surface and but one beneath: "He threw himself at Jesus's feet, and thanked him".

Amen.

Also, lepers were separated from the Temple. The bleeding made them ritually unclean.

Still this has no connection to economics.

For whom does the Butcher have contempt? The link is about contempt. This blog is less about economics and more about politics and policy, which is where Cowen's essays at Bloomberg are posted.

gayward, is the climate also changing on Tralfamadore?

I love you and Dr. Tyler. What I have contempt for are bogus certainties; precisions; and shallow self-righteousness.

Yet, we are expected to support savages.

3. In the US we're not supposed to call them "blackboards" anymore. We're told to call them "chalkboards." I kid you not.

Because "blackboard" clearly suggests that the bodies of black people--which are treated like a formless mass--are violated by being written on with racist white chalk. Are you a racist bigot?

#3. My board writing is quite good on chalkboards, and not at all good on whiteboards. When I ordered replacements in our department's classrooms, we had to split the difference--whiteboards in some, chalkboards in others. We teach English.

5. Should Boeing be the subject of the public's contempt? This weekend, Boeing's board removed Dennis A. Muilenburg as chairman. That's likely the least of his problems, as prison is where he is headed. Contempt? For a company that knowingly produced and sold a defectively designed aircraft that resulted in the deaths of hundreds? Contempt. Who deserves our contempt? The PC police on college campuses? Or the leaders of America's big business who either shifted production to China or produced defective products here in America?

4. "Funky" in regard to the taste of food means what?

It means pretty good, like armpit hair on a beautiful woman.

5) Amazing. Contempt is the most destructive force on Earth. The insidious aspect of contempt is that it often begins long before it manifests into monstrous actions. On the macro-level, large groups harbor contempt which, like light through a magnifying glass, is channeled into a small group of leaders or radicals willing to exact consequences on the “other.”

Try to never say “X group is (insert negative characteristic).” That is the path to, sometimes mutual, dehumanization and destruction, even if you yourself are far removed from said destruction.

5: For the love of Ever-Mother-Farking God.

Yeah, like any other male, I can remember at least ten occasions where I was bottom-of-the-barrel as far as being served at a busy bar.... because guess what, the 25-year-old male bartender was spending 99% of his time focusing on the single, unaccompanied ladies.

But yeah, I'm sure, your problem was racial. Fits the narrative, and gets you a dutiful repost at MR, so why not??

_1 yes, do we know that whites get served first? Those stories will not due.

The article is comforting because, when I was ignored I thought it was just me, and I'm white and tall, but many times i felt ignored by bartenders, I thought because I am shy and soft spoken, but I bet I was not more than ignored that anyone else, except good looking girls and friends of the bartenders.
Good study for a PHD candidate to do:
Are whites served quicker?
Are whites thought to tip more?
Is it reversed with black bartenders in majority black bars?
Lots to investigate here. I will bend to evidence either way but these stories are too prone to bias.

Come on, admit it. You didn't read that whole screed, what that poor gal went through for thirty or forty paragraphs. You just wanted an opportunity to bitch about slow bar service, because you don't have the endurance to earn a dutiful post about it on MR.

Many economists prefer chalkboards/blackboards, especially mathematical economists. Also, theoretical physicists do as well. At the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, ON, the base for the anti-string theory crowd, the walls are all chalkboards and are covered in equations all the time.

To Woah, who claims to be an expert on the Middle East. The PKK has been declared a terrorist organization by the US, but not the YPG, which is the group in Syria. You look like a loud-mouthed fraud.

Come on now. I’m not Woah but I know enough about the Middle East to scoff at your dismissal. The YPG is the Syrian offshoot of PKK and is very directly tied to that (terrorist) organization. They’re closer to the PKK than Hezbollah is to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard. The State Department is beginning to appreciate that fact.

Partnering with a terrorist offshoot organization to create the SDF instead of relying on Syrian Arabs (defectors from Syrian army and ordinary citizens taking up arms) was a big mistake on Obama’s part.

Sir, I don't know what your background is but this is laughably wrong.

The SDF is an American rebranding of the PKK's armed wing. IIRC it was General Thomas who came up with the name. Americans literally invented the name from whole cloth.

Your claims of distinction between the YPG and the PKK flies in the face of our own intelligence services' conclusion.

Here's the Congressional Research Service: Link

Here's the DNI.

Link

For a quote from these sources: " ...the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), including its People’s Protection Units (YPG) militia in Syria..."

Woah (and LOL),

Sorry, but you are both misrepresenting things here. Woah's link clearly describes the YPG as being "linked to the PKK," It does not say "an offshoot of the PKK." The PKK has certainly attacked Turkey; the YPG has not at all.

You are both spouting Turkish propaganda. Do you also deny that the Turks committed genocide against the Armenians.

As for checking me out, go ahead and google me, but note that there is a lot I have done that is not in my Wikipedia entry, including serious time in MENA where I personally know quite a few top players.

As of now, "Woah," who cannot be checked out (much less you, "LOL," lol), you look even more like a lying fraud. Go ahead and tell us who you are and your credentials rather than linking to things that do not support what you post here. Gag, pathetic.

If you are truly that Barkley Rosser, I respect your work. However, I do not think that your background makes you any more qualified to opine on Syria. In fact, you married a very Russian Russian, like, from the Soviet Union. I guess with 80% probability that she has stereotypical Russian views on Syria and that that has rubbed off on you. I wish you and your family the best, and I do not intend to start a flame war here.

Lastly, the Armenian Genocide-denier accusation is plain wrong and inappropriate. I have done my part, whenever I could, to make people aware of that genocide. I am about as far from a Turkish propagandist as you can get. I am simply partial to the Syrian majority, you know, the victims of the largest mass killing in the last 20-25 years. I wish more people would start caring about them and realizing that they’re the biggest victims of both Assad and ISIS (a largely North African and Iraqi terrorist group).

Thanks, LOL. Yes, I am married to a Russian, but she is far from the typical one. let me note that we are coauthors of what is currently the world's leading textbook on comparative economics in the world.

I do not think either of you are really off on the Armenian genocide issue, although "Woah" has not weighed in on that, and he is the one pushing more questionable ideas that seem to mirror Turkish propaganda.

Thanks for responding. I’m curious to see what your moral consistency is like. What’s your stance on Assad killing half a million of his own people? And what do you think of Tulsi Gabbard meeting with him and doing apologetic gymnastics on his behalf in the U.S (this second prong is actually important)?

For the record, I think there is a greater probability of Turkey killing innocent Kurds than saving Syrian Arabs from their terrible situation. Any killing of innocent people is a tragedy, and there are preliminary reports of that. Syrians harbor no hatred for Kurds, and to the extent that innocents are killed, that stems from the tone at the top a.k.a. The Turks. Without the proper chain of command controls in place, some loose cannons will kill innocent people (for example, misplaced revenge killing for Kurdish expulsion of Arabs from their villages, and prior Kurdish terrorist group cooperation with the genocidal Assad). I am glad that Turkey has accepted so many refugees, but I do not think they have the best intentions here.

As an addendum to that question, I’m also curious how you believe that ISIS is the alternative to Assad in Syria. That is a departure from many of your more rational views (like on free trade). The false choice between Assad and ISIS is exactly what the Assad regime wants you to believe. It is intellectually lazy and extremely harmful. ISIS is a foreign invader that Syrians want to kick out right along with Assad. The problem is that Syrians are powerless against the 2 superpowers (Russia and Iran) which back their dictator. Once the dictator is gone and Syrians have their own non-sectarian army (which would certainly NOT be ISIS, or theocratic at all of you know anything about Syrians), dealing with ISIS would be trivial. I suggest you read up on how Assad funded what became ISIS, back when they were killing American soldiers in Iraq (AQ in Iraq). I also suggest you read up on how he created a power void in some parts of Syria and released terrorist prisoners so that ISIS could invade. That allowed him to win the propaganda game (it’s me or terrorists!) and allow otherwise smart people like you to become jaded about yet another genocide.

Finally, I invite you to reflect on what matters to you in Syria. If the (tragic) Turkish aggression has gotten you to comment more than Assad’s butchering of 500k people, and if you envision a worse outcome than Assad’s ongoing massacre, then you do not yet appreciate the true value of human life. All human life. Proportion matters. Scale matters. And tragically, it is being ignored. Implicitly, Syrian Arabs are subhumans to a lot of people. 10k of them count for 1 Kurd or American. The utter disregard for Syrian life is disgusting.

LOL,

And your grounds for this interrogation are what? Do you also claim to have access to possibly classified data bases?
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Anyway, I have nothing but contempt for Gabbard. When the anti-Assad movement started in the wake of the Arab Spring there was a brief moment where it was led by a non-sectarian apparently democratically-oriented group. But they quickly got pushed aside by sectarian groups of varying degrees of extremity, but with the most important ones linked to al Qaeda, not Daesh, with the US at times supporting some of these, as have also KSA and Israel at times.

Russia was and is far more important than Iran in Syria, with Iran not at all having any power to overthrow Assad. OTOH, the Russians were not going to let him fall if they could manage it beause of the Tartus naval base they (and previously the Soviets) have had since 1971.

Assad is awful, but an al Qaeda government would also be awful. Life does not always provide us with simple choices.

"Russia was and is far more important than Iran in Syria"

This is hilariously wrong.

Look, Turkish bot, This is just insanely idiotic. Russia turned it around for Assad in eastern Syria. Iran did not. There is no comparison between the militaries of Russia and Iran. Hezbollah has helped Assad, but just as PKK and YPG are not identical, Hezbollah and Iran are not identical.

BTW, you are almost right about something, your claim that the Kurds want to cut a deal with Assad. Where you are off is that there will be a long term deal there. No. The Kurds have invited Assad (and Russia) in to help save them from the genocidal Turkish invaders. But there will be no deal. Assad simply wants all of Syria back. The Kurds will be caught between the two and get the shaft. The issue is whether Assad and Erdogan can agree on what will be the line between the in the area.

Of course there is also this other problem that the US troops there that have been ordered out by Trump have no (easy) way out, and at this time are stuck between the advancing Turks and the advancing national Syrian army, along with their Kurdish (and Arab Christian) allies.

LOL,

Regarding me and my wife, I suggest you look at my Wikipedia entry. There is some material there that will inform you more and make it clear that she is far from typical. We have both been around, way around.

Okay sir, I now googled you. You’re at a bottom rate community college and your dad is famous. So with a famous professor father you managed to fail. In your chosen field. Now you intrude into my area. Points for audacity and arrogance I suppose.

I gave you the Congressional Research Council and the DNI.

I’ll quote the DNI again I suppose. “ ...the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), including its People’s Protection Units (YPG) militia in Syria...”

Feel free to be a Trumpist. You can ignore our intelligence agencies’ assessment. You’re in terrible company. Maybe you can be a Fox News contributor?

Oh this is interesting. I ran your name through our database.

You have affiliations with the House of Saud, mostly minor royal officials and family members, but some real players. There's also a tangential financial link through the American University of Beirut. Also financial ties to royal universities in Riyadh and elsewhere. The tentative link is Saudi money tied to the US.

You're more interesting than meets the eye.

You seem to be barely competent, Woah. JMU is not a community college, much less a "bottom rate" one, and I have a chaired professorship there. I have over 200 publications in a wide array of sub-disciplines of economics, as well as several other disciplines, with a pretty respectable set of google scholar citations. I am and have been a journal editor, and I am the senior coeditor of the New Palgrave Dictionary of Ecoomics, if you know what that is, which I suspect you do not, given your apparent general ignorance as well as stupidity regarding various matters.

Pretty clearly your sources are in conflict. I would repeat that whatever the precise nature of the relationship between PKK and YPG, there is zero evidence of any actions by the latter against Turkey. The claims by Turkey that YPG is an anti-Turkish terrorist group are simply horse manure of the stupidest sort.

Regarding my connections, they go higher than "minor royal officials." OTOH, some of the other things you mention are inaccurate, but I am not interested in correcting your data bases. I have been around, way around.

As for being a "Trumpist," are you really that dumb? You are the one spouting a Trumpist argument, that the YPG is a bunch of bad guys whom it is just fine to abandon to ethnic cleansing and slaughter. Now the Russians and Syrians are entering in, with a possibility of conlflict between them and the Turks, and we have reports of "dozens" of Daesh fighters escaping, with it now even becoming an issue about the US worrying about getting its 50 or so nukes out of Turkey.

So, do you want to assure us that you are not just a Turkish bot spouting anti-YPG propaganda? Do you also want to support their views on history regarding the Armenians? LOL ran from that, but you have remained strangely silent on that matter. Is this because perhaps you are of ethnic Turkish background? I have found it quite striking how almost everybody I know of that background somehow or other ends up supporting, or at least not criticizing, the official Turkish view on the events of 1915, even though basically nobody else sides with them on this (I do recognize that there are debates about numbers killed and some details, but nobody who is not ethnically Turkish buys the main Turkish arguments).

Woah,

Oh, I do see that your people have me knowing some "real players." Yes, that is more like it. Do you know any of those people?

Oh, and for the record, and it is long and public on Econospeak by now, I utterly despise MbS. Those I know there are not particularly fans of his, but the situation has become such that people have to be careful what they say. I know personally several of the people he tossed into the Ritz-Carlton, one of whom is still there.

James Madison University has a 72% acceptance rate with SAT ranges that include 1120 in their middle 80% range.

It's a community college. Even if it gives idiots BA's, it's a community college. I'm glad you're doing well at your community college! It has an endowment of $100 million. Yeah, that's not a real school.

You gave a wall of text. Great, it conflicts with our own intelligence services. I gave you the DNI. You quoted nothing but your opinion.

I said i ran you through the database. Most of your connections are low tier royal family members and academics through Riyadh and the American University at Beirut, but I explicitly said you are listed to have connections to House of Saud. And funding ties through oil money. It's not a secret.

Everything I have said is a documented fact. You're entitled to your opinions as a community college instructor.

Sure, Woah (whichever one you are), JMU is not Harvard or even UVa. But youe insistence on labeling it a community college does not exactly help your barely-there credibility. After all, community colleges basically have 100% acceptance rates.

So it is not surprising that you seem unable to tell the difference between SDF, YPG, and PKK. And I at least am still waiting for you to tell us your view on the Turkish genocide of Armenians in 1915.

And, again, some of what you claim is in your various data bases is inaccurate, but I am not going to waste time trying to straighten out the record. That your data bases have errors in them is not at all surprising to me. I have been around a bit too much.

Oh, and as for my relations with my late old man, yes, he was smarter than I am as well as more famous. I have no problem with that, being very proud of him, even as we had our differences. He knew Einstein, von Neumann, and Godel. That was his crowd. He proved the most widely reproduced version of Godel's incompleteness theorem. He has all sorts of things named for him: several theorems, a number, a trick, a sentence, a sieve, a matrix, and more. But I actually do have a bit, an equation. You can find it by googling. Not too bad for somebody at a low rated community college.

My view on the Turkish genocide is that it's a moral abomination that the international community will not recognize it.

The Turkish government is guilty of a genocide on par with the Holocaust and the Holomodor. The Turks are guilty. Guilty of a deliberate campaign of destruction of human life.

They are not only guilty of a genocide against an innocent people, the Armenians, they are guilty of a plan of subjugation of a noble and independent people, the ethnic Kurds.

Erdogan is a corrupt buffoon on par with Trump.

But for all of that, the YPG is still the armed wing of the PKK. Those of us that deal with reality have to acknowledge reality. We can't live in a faculty wing of a community college. We have to live a reality in which an armed wing of a terrorist group is fighting an even worse terrorist group.

I apologize for my insults, it was unprofessional.

Hmmm, so this "Woah" (since apparently there at least two of you) has figured it out that you need to criticize at least some Turkish behavior to have some credibility Of course your cred remains in pretty bad shape since even as you "apologize" for insulting me you continue to do so. It is not surprising that somebody who thinks PKK and YPG are identical thinks that a state university is the same as a community college.

So why is it that the UK government lists the PKK a terrorist group does not do so of YPG and even makes it clear that being a member of YPG is illegal in Turkey is not "proscribed" in the UK?

BTW, "Woah," you have another problem, although maybe this is a problem of there being more than one of you who have different lines here.

On the one hand I am an ignorant "community college instructor: who is so poorly informed that I cannot figure out that US intel actually agrees with the Turkish line that PKK and YPG are virtually identical. But OTOH I am a Saudi intel asset, although I guess being the latter is not evidence of somebody knowing anything, just as I have known quite a few US intel agents who were not particularly well informed.

#2: Yes, that was a great civilization. And yes, collapsed due to environmental crisis (long dry period, deforestation, groundwater pollution).

21th century Mayans cannot read whatever past Mayans wrote. There should be a very specific name for this process, but I ignore it.

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