The Russo-Turkish Wars

Russo-Turkish wars, series of wars between Russia and the Ottoman Empire in the 17th–19th century. The wars reflected the decline of the Ottoman Empire and resulted in the gradual southward extension of Russia’s frontier and influence into Ottoman territory. The wars took place in 1676–81, 1687, 1689, 1695–96, 1710–12 (part of the Great Northern War), 1735–39, 1768–74, 1787–91, 1806–12, 1828–29, 1853–56 (the Crimean War), and 1877–78. As a result of these wars, Russia was able to extend its European frontiers southward to the Black Sea, southwestward to the Prut River, and south of the Caucasus Mountains in Asia.

That is from the Encyclopedia Britannica, here is Wikipedia on the same.


I wonder how important this extra territory has been to Russian economic development over the centuries

Baku's oil would seem to be quite a prize.

Access to the Black Sea / Mediterranean was a major focus for Peter the Great.

Russia dropped a bomb on a Turkish encampment in Syria and killed 33 soldiers. While this won't make Russia any friends in Turkey, it is unlikely that the Russians did this on purpose. I don't think either Erdogan or Putin want a direct confrontation. That being said, Erdogan may have to shoot a plane or two down to satisfy his public. The Turks have the ability to shoot down Russian planes if they choose.

But not the nerve.

That was not a Russian bomb, but Syrian arty. And Turks were not supposed to be in that place. They were and shit has hit the fan. That makes the whole situation even more complicated. Technically, Russians are not responsible, and technically, Syria was not even attacking Turkey (since they are in a foreign territory and have not even said that they were there, even though they ensured, that they will disclose the location of their troops). Now, everyone does not have any "good" ways out. Whoever does not respond, loses at least some face. If Turkey does not attack in retaliation, they look weak. If Russia does not support Syria afterwards, we look weak. And Syria, while doing both attacking and defending is just on the receiving end of both decisions.

Thank you. This was the missing prompt for the blog post.

If only the United States had sent $391 million of aid during this period...this region of the world would have been an oasis of peace and stability!

What does that have to do with anything?

I assume this is apropos the recent bombing in Idlib and the fact that Turkey and Russia are backing opposing factions in Northern Syria.

When Turkey announced it was planning to buy a Russian missile system, I didn't see it as a sign of realignment as some did. I just reminded myself that Turkey and Russia share a border and Russia is never friendly with its neighbors. Kipling's old warning "There is no truce with Adam-zad, the Bear that looks like a Man!"

They don't share a border.

They share a maritime border in Black Sea

The Russians share a border with Sarah Palin. They also live in Hillary's email inbox.

Some of Russia's territorial gains in 1877–78 were rolled back by Turkey after the Russian Revolution. (Wikipedia map: )

The history between these two countries strongly suggests they can never be friends...however geopolitical imperatives are pushing matters along's not in Turkey's interest to attack Russia's client...maybe's strange that Turkey is a NATO member and receiving no assistance from other NATO members as per treaty terms...I'm sure Uncle Sam's hands are in here somewhere

An attack on Turkish troops in Syria is not an attack on Turkey.

".it's strange that Turkey is a NATO member and receiving no assistance from other NATO members as per treaty terms."

They are. Granted, it's US forces, but that is effectively NATO in this case.

"Stoltenberg said Turkey's NATO allies are "constantly looking" for ways to support Turkey, as a bloody and destabilizing civil war plays out in neighboring Syria. He added that the group will continue to augment Turkey's air defense, to prevent missile attacks from Syria.

"There's a Patriot missile battery in southern Turkey and AWACS flights keeping an eye from above," Teri Schultz reports for NPR's Newscast. "Turkey has reportedly asked the U.S. directly to share more missile-defense capabilities.""

As long as Turkey doesn’t restart slave raids into Russia they should be able to get along just fine.

This is entire post is sourced from two encyclopedias? By a PhD professor who teaches graduate students?

The web really is a place where standards don't exist.

Speaking as a "PhD Professor" (not a common academic title), professors don't write a masters thesis on what they read in the news every day. Wikipedia is fairly correct, most of the time, and easily accessible. The key is to have a broad enough general knowledge to sense when to be skeptical about what you're reading, and search harder.

Turkey, or Asia Minor or whatever name one prefers, it's the gateway to the south and east (or to the north and west for those traveling the opposite direction). It was conquered by Alexander the Great in 323 BCE and facilitated the process of Hellenization. Upon Alexander's death and the division of his empire, the area was part of the Seleucid Empire and the Seleucid dynasty. The ancient city of Nicaea is the site of the First and Second Councils of Nicaea (the first and seventh Ecumenical councils in the early history of the Christian Church), from which the Nicene Creed is derived (which established the Christology of Jesus). And so on down through the ages. It would be impossible to exaggerate the significance of this area.

Nobody would ever pay for such uninspired linking instead of thinking.

I, for one, am cancelling my MR subscription and demanding a refund for all monies paid until this point.

I'm not that worried about a Russian-Turkish war again. Now if the Russians start messing with the Swedes again we've got problems.

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