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Sumner has good taste in movies.

So do you.

Big second for the Preston Sturges movies. Watch for The Miracle of Morgan's Creek.

1. Link has been fixed. If the ancient Greeks or someone even older discovered Atlantis off the coast of Cuba, why didn't they discover the rest of America and write about the strange culture of the Caribbean Indians at least?

My bets are on Doggerland. It is in Europe, it is a sunken civilization, and the Greeks and Phoenicians had the ability to get there fairly easily. While it sank almost 5,000 years before the first tales of Atlantis, the Germans that Southern Europeans would have encountered on their trips north probably told folktales about it.

I'm a little suspicious of the fact that there are casinos among the ruins.

25 best movies: I didn't even recognize the name of a single movie. I do watch movies and never heard of any of them.

Thiago,
sounds you are over your adolescent infatuation with
southeast asian communism
happy independence day
love
Addie

1) My name is not Thiago. I am John Stevens Sr. I am an independent American voter who opposes appeasement to Beijing's totalitarian regime. I support immediately granting full garantees to the Philippines, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Momgolia, Singapore and Myanmar.

The Socialist Republic of Vietnam's General Secretary, a tough but fair leader, has made it clear that further Chinese aggression will not be tolerated.
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/vietnams-no-nonsense-new-president-takes-lead-china-us-affairs

Good point. The Socialist Republic of Vietnam leads an anti-fascist alliance to counterweight Beijing's ruling cabal's influence and rebuff further fascist aggression. I thank General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong for his correct leadership.

https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/vietnam-slams-china-for-military-drills-in-disputed-waters-says-it-could-impact-ties-with-asean/615513

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN2431GN

Great comment, sir. No more Munichs. Never again.

3. Seems kind of conventional. FWIW though, in this pandemic age, I find myself drawn to television series where nothing really happens. I like Midsomer Murders the best for this. The deaths seem both fake and inevitable, never tragic. The characters are plot developments mildly interesting. It goes on for hours, and then there is a not very dramatic conclusion. I imagine I'm like thousands of British Grannies in their shawls and with their tea, taking comfort in non-drama.

The characters *and* are plot developments mildly interesting.

Midsomer Murders is pretty big in Denmark, too. The 100th episode was a co-production with DR and partly filmed in Denmark.

#7. Agree on Delroy Lindo and Da 5 Bloods. Same with Vast of Night. The director is one to follow. The tracking scene across the town was very impressive.

The King of Staten Island made me like Pete Davidson. Not an easy feat.

Pete Davidson is still an asshole

I get the dislike for poor little Peter Davidson, but one day, stuck in traffic, I listened to the poor little fellow in an hour-long interview with Harold Stern and Robin Quivers.

The public persona of a "funny creep" that he puts out because his masters at SNL tell him to is not the real guy.

His dad was murdered on 9/11, he suffered for years from a terrible illness, and he knows that he needs to be a better man if he ever wants a real relationship with a woman. He was honest about all of that. Not very funny, of course - he is not a natural comedian - but honest.

So he is pretty much like the rest of us. Ceteris paribus, of course.

What is Tyler Cowen reading??

#1. What is Tyler Cowen smoking?

Probably the same stuff as Donovan way back then!
Way down below the ocean, where I wanna be...

Several decades ago my family had a subscription to a magazine called _Science Digest_. Which did what it's title implies, but it went downhill when the publisher decided to start printing what we now call click-bait and published ever-more outlandish articles on ever-more ridiculous topics. The low point was a big article on Spontaneous Human Combustion.

There are at least one or two decent popular archeology magazines in circulation (but I can never keep their titles straight because they all are "something archeology something") but we can instantly deduce that archeology-world.com is not one of them.

Which is not to deny that there are ancient cities whose sites are underwater; there are quite a few that have already been discovered around the world. It's the rest of the article that's BS.

#3 Like most Americans, I like movies. Recently, I have watched famous Vietnamese movie Father and Son. The Socialist Republic of Vietnam's General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong has made it clear further aggression from Beijing's ruling fascist cabal will not be tolerated by the Vietnamese people. Down with Beijing's reactionary clique! Long live the Vietnamese Fatherland Front!

https://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN2431GN
https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/vietnams-no-nonsense-new-president-takes-lead-china-us-affairs

My Vietnamese friend's favorite Vietnamese movie is The Scent of Green Papaya. It is definitely a non-western love story.

Good point. I have watched this movie. It is a very good movie, which express the uniqueness of the Vietnamese people and its society.

#1. Atlantis? Do pop science journalists not distinguish the Gulf of Mexico from the Atlantic Ocean?

--or: where in Plato's Timaeus or in his Critias does he alert readers to the Yucatan Peninsula or the Greater Antilles? Granted, the cited site IS west of the Pillars of Hercules by conventional reckoning, but . . .

How did pop science journalists determine that the cited site is not an eastern extension of Lemuria?

There are good reasons to believe Brasil (as it is written in Portuguese) is the famous Hy-Brasil island, which can change all we know qbout the past.

#1: That "city" was supposedly discovered in 2001, and since then nothing more has been heard about it . . .

Happens a lot. It turns out that in materials with the same properties in every direction (as opposed to those with clear planes of weakness) 90 degree angles are quite common. It's due to how pressure works to cause fractures in rocks. No matter what pressure is applied or where, the result is always 3 directions of pressure at 90 degree angles to one another. If the rock pops open due to pressure in one direction, the new direction of maximum pressure--and therefore the direction of the next set of faults--is 90 degrees from the first. This results in very regular blocks that look a LOT like something man-made, especially to non-geologists who are unfamiliar with the nuances of force acting to fracture rock. And pretty much every time someone sees something like this they cry "Atlantis!" or, if they want to sound more obscure, "Ys!" or the like.

Geologists, meanwhile, shake our heads sadly and go back to doing real research.

The honeycomb thing is due to multiple triple-points forming as things contract. Different process, so the results are quite different. And 90 degrees to the force isn't always 90 degrees overall. Exfoliation--the "onion weathering" you see on Stone Mountain in Georgia, for example--is 90 degrees from the radius of the granite chunk, which, being based on the radius, forms a circle (eventually, anyway). There is also weird interplay between fractures as they move towards each other.

The upshot of this is, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to keep a geologist entertained for a few hours, provide them with a case of beer and a dish where you've let a mixture of corn starch and water dry overnight. They will happily spend hours measuring angles and trying to figure out which fractures came first.

This seems to be a decent follow up

https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/an-underwater-city-west-of-cuba/

Paulina Zelitzki and Paul Weinzweig seem to have been publishing life stories in recent years, but not about this.

4. The Sisyphean cycle of technology panics.
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The panics are generally about information technology. It is the fear of one generation having assets devalued by information technology. The brick and mortar problem. Information technology is mostly about beating the system', obtaining advanced knowledge of future shipments. The fear is real, technology almost always devlaues previous brick and mortar.

2. Christian economics? Who is being ironic? "The cheap reading of her book can sound just like another bunch of self-help moralizing about us needing to consume less and live better." Cowen's reading? St. Paul: ā€œI have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.ā€

Being a Christian is costly. Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship. The nonsense that passes for Christianity today would depress the most faithful Christian.

I am not sure exactly what Bart Ehrman, perhaps the most incisive historian of early Christianity, would say, but he might well agree that the closest to Jesus's teaching are the people walking around with sandwich boards saying the end is nigh. Read his books.

Surely an incisive historian would refer to early Christianities?

I feel there is strong linguistic, textual and archeological evidence that Plato's Atlantis was on the Sous-Massa plain in Morocco, but non-specialists ignore it because they get hung up on the word island (the Greek *nesos* does not refer just to islands, but any isolated areas, and a valley surrounded on one side by the sea and two by mountain ranges definitely qualifies), and specialists kind of ignore it because the person who pushed for it most was kind of a crank.

I really wish there will be serious archaeology there before I die.

Sonic the Hedgehog for Best Picture.

To save America for the next decade we must ensure a Trump
Victory in November

to save America we must nudge the silly buzzword "triggered" into
the dustbin of sociology

The Atlantis story seems to be from 2001:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_underwater_city

#1. Interesting, but why put "Atlantis" in the headline?

#1. Where I want to be. She may be.

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