North Korean tragedy markets in everything

by on February 17, 2017 at 1:17 pm in Current Affairs, Law | Permalink

The Indonesian woman arrested for suspected involvement in the killing of the North Korean leader’s half brother in Malaysia was duped into thinking she was part of a comedy show prank, Indonesia’s national police chief said Friday, citing information received from Malaysian authorities.

Tito Karnavian told reporters in Indonesia’s Aceh province that Siti Aisyah, 25, was paid to be involved in “Just For Laughs” style pranks, a reference to a popular hidden camera show.

He said she and another woman performed stunts which involved convincing men to close their eyes and then spraying them with water.

Here is the story, via Ray Lopez.

1 So Much For Subtlety February 17, 2017 at 1:27 pm

If true that suggests a worrying collapse in North Korean competence when it comes to murder overseas. For this sort of thing, I would think most people would want to rely on professionals.

But it is the Indonesian police. So I think it can be discounted.

2 prior_test2 February 17, 2017 at 1:35 pm

Particularly since they are citing the Malaysian police as their source.

3 gab February 17, 2017 at 1:54 pm

I think it’s brilliant. None of this carrying around nasty polonium and muddying your tracks and giving the assassin away.

No, just pick some innocent half-wit and nobody gets blamed!

4 So Much For Subtlety February 17, 2017 at 6:46 pm

Except the innocent half wit will co-operate with the police. Will tell them everything.

What is worse, you can’t guarantee that a volunteer will do the job as planned. They are part-timers after all.

In the old days, the North Koreans managed to blow up most of the South Korean Cabinet in 1983.[1] They did not do that with amateurs.

[1] Including Lee Bum-suk. Whose name most people prefer to write as Lee Beom-seok these days.

5 Thiago Ribeiro February 17, 2017 at 6:50 pm

What wil she tell the police? That an Asian guy who must be in North Korea by now hired her to prank people?

6 So Much For Subtlety February 18, 2017 at 2:48 am

She will be able to pick the handler out in a police line up. She will be able to tell the police it was Koreans who did it.

Ideally you want to kill and go with no evidence. Look at Putin’s sterling work. Boris Nemtsov shows how it should be done.

7 Thiago Ribeiro February 18, 2017 at 3:37 am

How can she know it was the Koreans ? Maybe she can say it was one Korean-sounding guy. And everyone thinks it was the Koreans already. Even if she says her handler spoke perfect Enflish and was blond, people will still say it was a Korean spy. And again: her handler must be far from Malaysia now (or six feet under) if they planned it right. Also, reportedly, the North Koreans had already tried – and failed – to kill Kim Kong-nam . Not this time.

8 Thiago Ribeiro February 17, 2017 at 1:56 pm

It doesn’t matter if the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mice – and kills traitors, I guess.

9 Anon7 February 17, 2017 at 2:27 pm

If accurate, it shows creativity and effectiveness, which is more impressive than the CIA professionals and their exploding cigars. It’s something that a Bond villain might do.

10 dearieme February 17, 2017 at 2:54 pm

Pretty much my thoughts to a “t”. But why didn’t they then kill the silly girl?

11 Thiago Ribeiro February 17, 2017 at 5:24 pm

What can she tell them? An Asian-looking guy told me I would become famous? The managers are already in Pyongyong or in Malaysia six feet under.

12 A Black Man February 17, 2017 at 1:40 pm

I prefer my mad rulers to be theatrical so I tend to enjoy Kim’s work in the areas of assassination and execution. This shows a real flair for the dramatic, but also a sense of humor about assassination in the modern age. It’s very meta.

13 Bob February 17, 2017 at 3:32 pm

Yes, it’s very postmodern.

14 Ray Lopez February 17, 2017 at 3:54 pm

Yes, indeed, in another article, by the BBC, Kim has used anti-aircraft guns on a single firing squad victim, and, showing a definite “flair” for the dramatic, flame-throwers.

Insofar as poison goes, there’s a Himalayan flowering plant favored by Russia and undoubtedly North Korea that leaves nearly no residue in the victim after autopsy, but is lethal if injected or otherwise ingested into the victim (sounds like a Ian Flemming novel, in fact it is, “You Only Live Twice” involving poisonous plants on the “Garden of Death”)

Bonus trivia: it is said North Koreans are taller and more muscular than South Koreans, and I saw a few of these men in Moscow once, and I was told they were bodyguards.

15 Thiago Ribeiro February 17, 2017 at 5:28 pm

“it is said North Koreans are taller and more muscular than South Koreans, and I saw a few of these men in Moscow once, and I was told they were bodyguards.”

“Unlike previous racist dictatorships, the North Korean one has actually succeeded in producing a sort of new species. Starving and stunted dwarves, living in the dark, kept in perpetual ignorance and fear, brainwashed into the hatred of others, regimented and coerced and inculcated with a death cult”

Christopher Hitchens

16 Thiago Ribeiro February 17, 2017 at 5:47 pm

Also: “Second, a North Korean is on average six inches shorter than a South Korean. You may care to imagine how much surplus value has been wrung out of such a slave, and for how long, in order to feed and sustain the militarized crime family that completely owns both the country and its people.”

17 Ray Lopez February 17, 2017 at 7:29 pm

Hitchens was a clever writer, maybe he was embellishing what a North Korean average rice farmer looks like, rather than an elite hand picked bodyguard. I was told by my Russian host that all North Koreans looked like these guys, all tall (taller than me, I’m nearly 1,83 meters), so they were not average in height.

18 Thiago Ribeiro February 18, 2017 at 3:39 am

All North Koreans or all North Korean bogyguards? I doubt the typical North Korean is around 1.83 m.

19 Thiago Ribeiro February 17, 2017 at 5:25 pm

“leaves nearly no residue in the victim after autopsy”
Soes it leave residue bwfore the autopsy? If it does, I see a flaw in its use.

20 Ray Lopez February 17, 2017 at 7:38 pm

Yes it the flower’s leaves leave residue, that’s how Scotland Yard figured it out once a Russian dissident was assassinated by this poison, but it’s hard to trace (they had to rely on a world class expert; a Malaysian doctor would miss the diagnosis unless tipped off). Like the poisoned panda from my poison pen TR: “eats, shoots and leaves (& leaves earth)”.

Bonus Trivia: the Garden of Death is a fictional garden in Japan, but in Sydney, AU there is housed in the excellent botanical garden there the rarest plant on earth. However, due to crazy people trying to kill the plant to achieve immortality (has happened in the USA with an old Maryland oak tree, killed by a modern witch, and in the Sequoia national park in CA/AZ, where a several thousand year old tree was bored though and killed by an arborist in the 1960s who wanted to measure its age–it was indeed the oldest tree alive–purportedly he had a disputed permit to do this) the actual place of where this AU plant resides in the garden is secret, but another plant that to the untrained eye looks the same fills in the place of this rare plant, and the spot is guarded by hidden CCTV to catch the crazies trying to kill it.

21 carlospln February 17, 2017 at 10:34 pm

Horse shit, Ray.

You don’t even know what the rarest plant on Earth IS.

22 Ray Lopez February 17, 2017 at 10:51 pm

Why don’t you tell us then, Mr. Tough Guy Gutter Mouth?

Bonus trivia: horseshit, like any animal shit, when fresh will actually kill plants. You have to let it age and get mellow.

23 Sid February 17, 2017 at 7:14 pm

Here’s a model for the pharma industry: The existing pharma companies have within it a large subset of people dedicated to managing the FDA. By figuring the FDA out, a few big companies dominate pharma. If the FDA is deregulated they are opened to competition from other, more nimble players; and also foreign competitors like Indian pharma. Compare with Taxi drivers and Uber; or hotel and Airbnb.

24 carlospln February 17, 2017 at 10:36 pm

And you don’t know the 1st thing about Pharma.

Friday nights sure are a thin trawl on MR.

25 edwardseco February 17, 2017 at 9:06 pm

On NHK, the Japanese news program, they say the authorities found that the two women were in touch with each other before they came to the country of assassination..

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