Boo hoo

Is Arnold Kling quitting blogging?

Sorry for being abrupt, but this is something I have been thinking about for months.

In the future, I plan to do my writing in essay format.

As far as blogging goes, I am opting for exit rather than voice, as it were.

Did he just get too fed up?  Any chance he will pull a Michael Jordan?


There were two Michael Jordan reversals, one electrifying, the other pathetic.

I remember early in the morning on 9/11, radio host Neal Boort'z daily "Nuze" had at the top something like "The big story of the day is whether Michael Jordan will return to playing."

Needless to say, that page got updated after "it" happened, but if you go back in the archives, you can still see it there. Arnold also a degenerate gambler?

Came to say this :)

What I want to know is" who is the blogging commissioner who forced Kling out of blogging for his despicable habit of betting on which Ezra Klein posts will be linked to by Tyler?

I stopped reading him when he (or an accomplice) censored a comment. If I'd wanted treatment like that I'd have sent comments to Broad DeLarge.

Caplan's pretty bad that way, too.

I believe the moderation is handled by Lauren Landsburg independent of the bloggers themselves. But yeah that got tiring.

That is correct. When a comment is deleted, it's always signed "Editor," which means Lauren Landsburg. I don't believe the bloggers themselves ever touch the comments. I'm not convinced Caplan even reads them.

The difference is that De Long deletes comments for disagreeing with him, whereas Landsburg deletes comments to enforce non-ideological standards of civility.

I find the editing of the comments there to be ideal. There's great differences of opinion (especially mine :-)), but the editor is extremely good about keeping things civil. So many other boards degenerate into name-calling. Usually the editor clearly indicates why the comment was removed.

So many other boards degenerate into name-calling.

Says you, meatwad. Bite my shiny metal ass!

"non-ideological standards of civility": it's not my habit to shout and scream in comments. Maybe she was foxed by dry British humour? Dim broad.

“non-ideological standards of civility"

Dim broad

Okay, yes, I laughed, but *please* tell me that was dry British humour and not what you would consider within bounds of civility.

What was the comment?

So he'll be on Twitter for a year before returning to blogging?

He just won't be able to get the hang of retweets...

Arnold's long form pieces are quite good. I look forward to reading more of them.

That is correct. When a comment is deleted, it’s always signed “Editor,” which means Lauren Landsburg

Does anyone understand what " I am opting for exit rather than voice, as it were." means?

Arnold has written several times that the power/right of exit is more important than the power/right of voice. So, for instance, suppose you were planning to move to one of two identical towns, distinguished only by one feature; in Splitsville you can leave at any time. No matter what ridiculous policies get implemented or what he electorate wants at any given time, you can always leave; however, you are not guaranteed a voice (read: vote, input of any kind) in what kinds of municipal policies get implemented.. In Soapbox Town you are guaranteed that no matter what you will always be guaranteed a vote (but not necessarily the right to leave). Arnold has maintained that Splitsville is a much, much better choice than Soapbox Town (i.e., that exit trumps voice).

Kevin, great explanation. I'm going to have to use that in the future.

From the title of the book "Exit, Voice and Loyalty: Responses to Declines in Firms, Organizations and States." A short summary: The author argues that there are two types of response to unsatisfactory situations in one's firm, organization or country. The first is "exit" or leaving without trying to fix things. The second is "voice," that is, speaking up and trying to remedy the defects. Loyalty can modify the response, causing one to stand and fight (voice) rather than cut and run (exit).

Either he is going seasteading or he is going to work on his formal schooling replacement start-up full-time. The latter seems more likely.

How you guys go on doing it year after year amazes me. But keep it up Tyler!

@Mofo: It's a reference to Albert Hirschman's classic, "Exit, Voice, and Loyalty," which documents possible responses to dissatisfaction with an institution.

Perhaps Kling is preparing for the upcoming civil war?

He probably got depressed looking at how his page hits have shrunk over the past year and decided it just isn't worth it because nobody is reading him any longer. I too could never get a comment posted and gave up since it looked like they didn't want to air opposing views. The good thing about Tyler's site is that all views are accepted and a great many of us liberals read and rant here.

Maybe it was the "rant" part that was the problem.

You don't "rant" on Econlog. That is the part that gets a comment deleted, and it is done on a non-ideological basis (I have had comments deleted, and in retrospect, I agreed with, or understood the reason every single time).

Wow. I've never had a comment censored and almost all of my posts are disagreeing with Brian, Arnold and David. Now I'm deeply curious as to what gets deleted.

Lauren Landsburg deleted one of my comments on econtalk. It was a longer version of, "OMG! Eugene "Freaking" Fama just listened and commented on Econtalk! How totally awesome!"

She objected to the "freaking" in the middle of the name and censored it for language, even though the post was very positive.

Adding a data point:

I once made a complimentary, if mildly silly-sounding, post in praise of something Kling did elsewhere and linked from his blog. The comment got deleted, possibly because it was perceived as being sarcastic, so I sent a flippant email requesting that my comment be restored because of how good it was. It was restored.

I just can't stand their "no fake e-mails" policy, which virtually no other worthwhile site has.

The snarky comments above are disappointing. Arnold Kling contributed a lot of interesting posts and I wouldn't have had an other opportunity to learn about his PSST ideas. It's a shame he's quitting.

This is curious to me. I've posted several somewhat snarky comments over the years, mostly to Kling and Henderson, and I don't recall any being scrubbed.

edited to add: Heh. I was just warned to back off; I'm posting too quickly here (about 45 minutes ago was my last and only post today).

When you write a comment here, take a deep breath before hitting submit.

That sucks. Kling tended to be the most interesting writer in that group, whereas Bryan Caplan always read like an alien imperfectly attempting to pass as human.

the "boo hoo" *feels* snarky. maybe i'm wrong. the internet's got me twisted.

I noticed there seem almost no snarky / negative comments beneath Kling's last post. Is that a result of censorship too?

Chuck, maybe this post title is a rare example of mood dis-affiliation?

Arnold was good and even though we disagreed we had a good relationship.

But David Henderson did the "are you still beating your wife" thing on Obama having the IRS audit people who made disparaging remarks about him.

So I asked if Henderson was still sexually abusing his students.

This got me banned.

Obviously, Henderson is a good libertarian who believes in free speech for himself, but not for others.

Not getting to comment on their blog is not a violation of your freedom of speech.

"Not getting to comment on their blog is not a violation of your freedom of speech."


Darn, I will miss Arnold.

Arnold was a great blogger. I'll miss his writing tremendously.

He and Tyler are the only two I know of who a) have a brilliant understanding of in-group/out-group and status dynamics and b) are skilled at using that knowledge to illuminate and keep our own idiocy in check.

This is off topic, but I hope someone will answer anyway.

I know that The Dish does not allow comments. But often Andrew posts a dissent or a reader's comment, so there much be some way of getting feedback to the site. Who know how it's done?

His email is posted on the website. I've emailed him at that address and had my comment it posted.

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