Pig semen nationalism protectionism

Two pig farmers in Western Australia will be jailed after being convicted of illegally importing Danish pig semen concealed in shampoo bottles.

Torben Soerensen has been sentenced to three years in prison, while Henning Laue faces a two-year sentence after pleading guilty to breaching quarantine and biosecurity laws.

The Perth district court was told boar semen had been illegally imported from Denmark multiple times between May 2009 and March 2017. The semen was used in GD Pork’s artificial breeding program and several breeding sows were direct offspring of Danish boars.

Federal agriculture minister Bridget McKenzie said breaches of biosecurity laws would not be tolerated.

“This case shows a disturbing disregard for the laws that protect the livelihoods of Australia’s 2,700 pork producers, and the quality of the pork that millions of Australians enjoy each year,” McKenzie said.

“GD Pork imported the semen illegally in an attempt to get an unfair advantage over its competitors, through new genetics.”

Western Australian Farmers Federation spokeswoman Jessica Wallace said the offences was “a selfish act” that could cripple an entire industry.

Here is more from Lisa Martin, via Art J.


I guess no diversity for swine.

+1 for the tongue in cheek reference to humans.

I am finishing my Time-Life picture book (underrated!) on Australia. Fascinating. I wish I had space to get into it, but Australia is a weird continent. Mostly dry, partly underwater in prehistoric times, and with primitive animals that are marsupial descendants (right and left hemispheres of the brain not well connected, they are quite 'single minded') and the trees are eucalyptus descendants (many types, some as high as redwoods almost). Then the monotremes (e.g. platypus and spiny anteater), where semen, feces and urine all come out of the same hole.

Bonus trivia: the giant red (gray) kangaroo can leap about 30 feet per hop and over 10 feet high, spending 70% of the time airborne and run faster than Usain Bolt, and with a trick of being able to change direction in flight, sideways. And they can disembowel you as well as punch out your lights with their muscular, grasping forearms. And the marsupial mouse looks like an ordinary mouse but it's carnivorous, will neatly skin and eat a regular mouse if left in the same cage. All of Australia is like that, very weird flora and fauna. Huntsman spiders 5" across (also found in FL and PH) that are encouraged to stay inside the house so they can hunt pests (they don't harm humans); most spiders btw are international since they travel via the atmosphere when young quite extensively.

" in an attempt to get an unfair advantage over its competitors, through new genetics.”
Same thinking as today's xenophobia. Complacency rules for now.

Regardless of the intent, the actual effect would be to threaten Australia's biosecurity, which is among the best in the world. I'm all for diversifying genetics, but it needs to be done in a manner that respects biosecurity. These people acted with selfish disregard for the safety and prosperity of Australian farming.

I can remember the fuss made when some chump staged a publicity stunt by posting bunches of wine-making grapes from one state to another. Ozzies take this sort of thing seriously.

Do they still spray tourists on planes with insecticide before landing? They did in my trip there.

Bonus trivia: Pyrethrin is found in certain plants and it's an insecticide, found in most mosquito sprays, produced among other places in Rwanda, where the Economist says this week that Paul Kagame, suspected of being behind the plane crash that touched off the 1994 genocide (says a French judge) is faking the GDP numbers. Plane crashes are a neat way used world wide to eliminate political opponents (see the new documentary on Dag Hammarskjöld's death in the Congo).

Remember the merino ram export ban of a few years ago. Proves you cant legislate effectively to try to stop these things.They always get through the system & end up achieving what the Govt was trying to prevent .

What do you do when the regulatory agencies don't have a rational or legal method for importing new genes? The safe position for regulators is always to say NO, which creates a "tragedy of the anti-commons" effect where every nut case has a veto.

WE have similar issues with high end imported vehicles.The LUXURY TAX & import duty was applied to "save the jobs of Aussie car manufacturing workers". We stopped manufacturing vehicles some years ago, but the Govt still kept the tax on, because they are overdosing on tax income.

Those who trade their bio-freedoms for biosecurity deserve neither.

Pigs have valuable semen. Cucks have worthless semen. The markets say so.

Is Aussie bacon any good? Danish bacon sounds good if it was deeply "unfair" to import those genetics.

Danish bacon tastes like socialism. American bacon tastes like capitalism. Canadian bacon tastes somewhere in between.

When I first spent time in the US I followed advice I'd been given - if you want decent beer or bacon buy Canadian. It worked.

When was this? Not to put too fine a point on it, but Canadian beer is terrible and has been so for years—almost as bad as ‘American’ mass-market domestics (which are really just the lowest common denominator of multinational corps).

I’ve never had bacon that originated from Canada, aside from ‘Canadian bacon’ which I think is not the same product at all but I think quite inferior anyway.

We have around 120 craft breweries in a province of four million people.

Why in gods name would anyone drink mass market beer when you have that many other choices? If you're drinking crap beer its by choice not by lack of option availability.

Same with bacon.

BC craft brewing is on averagr better than that in the US PNW, as opposed to BC wine which is terrible compared to WA and OR vintages. However I never see any of it for sale locally so only drink it when in BC.

A couple paragraphs from the article and the everything makes sense.

"Industry body Australian Pork said pigs were highly susceptible to disease and major potential threats included African swine fever and foot and mouth disease.

In Europe there have been cases of African swine fever on the Italian island of Sardinia for decades and the disease has spread to the European Union.

The European Food Safety Authority said most outbreaks occurred in small farms and were contained relatively quickly. But the disease was still spreading locally among wild boar, where containment was more difficult. In Asia there have been outbreaks in China and Vietnam."

If this is your first rodeo, don't be fooled. This is protectionism plain and simple. Pigs aren't even native to Australia and in fact descend from those same Eurasian pigs whose genetics they detest.

Also, African swine fever and foot and mouth disease cannot be transmitted via semen.

This kind of reminds me of all the warnings we used to hear in the US about Africanized bees moving north from Brazil to invade us.

+1 to Sean. How many people bothered to read the article and see its association with susceptibility of the offspring to Asian swine fever.

If you are going to not tell the whole story, why post part of the story which makes it misleading and appear unreasonable.

There are significant numbers of feral pigs is parts of Australia. A new disease in the wild population would be extremely expensive to control could be an economic disaster when it infects farmed pigs. That's why.

Importing material in a biosecure manner is slower and more expensive because it requires quarantine and testing but it is quite possible.

The GOP too is full of pig semen nationalists these days. What a time to be alive.

Anybody try the shampoo?

You don't need a conditioner.

I was told by Danish pig farming relatives that live pigs could not be exported. Danish ham or DAK salami, but no animals.

So maybe they managed to break Danish and Australian law at once.

Everyone thinks their hogs are the special ones.

'Everyone thinks their hogs are the special ones.'

Sure, but no one in Denmark or Australia thinks they need assault weaponry to handle their hogs in the wild, do they?


Go bush, you'll see

But do you need AK47s or M16s to deal with them?

I live in Germany, and none of the people who hunt native wild boar (Wildschwein - who usually travel in packs) feel any need for something like a Heckler & Koch MP7 or G36.

People in the US don't think an 'assault rifle' is right for it either. Get a proper hunting rifle. AR 15 is good for heavy plinking and light-moderate hunting. I wouldn't want to count on it to stop a wild boar.

'People in the US don't think an 'assault rifle' is right for it either.'

Well, at least one American does - though it is not clear if he shoots when his children are outside at the same time as the feral pigs swarm. ' Legit question for rural Americans - How do I kill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my yard within 3-5 mins while my small kids play? — William McNabb (@WillieMcNabb) August 4, 2019'

Obviously, while a legit question for rural Americans, answering assault weaponry is a bad answer in your eyes. Who knew that it is so easy to mock the necessity of the 2nd Amendment to keep assault rifles available for home protection against feral pigs.

As I said above, plinking and light to moderate hunting. Good enough reason to have an AR 15. Odd you're OK with a more powerful weapon but demonize a lighter version of it.

'Odd you're OK with a more powerful weapon'

For hunting? I think an AK47 or M16/AR15/etc. are absurd hunting weapons. I am not OK with hunting using Sturmgewehr, to be honest - an attitude shared by all of the hunters in my experience (yes, I know the person responsible for this town's Jagdrevier, who has killed more than a couple of boar) in the country that actually invented the assault rifle. This regardless of the animal being hunted, by the way.

And I can never remember anybody in my life when growing up in the U.S. who ever went hunting deer (or took out groundhogs) that thought an assault rifle was a proper tool for hunting. Things change, of course.

In a jarring way, often - I never expected anyone to seriously suggest an AR15 was appropriate for hunting.

But then, I would not expect a 2nd Amendment devotee walking around in a Walmart with a chambered round either - 'Andreychenko — who typically keeps a gun and vest in his car, according to his wife — arrived at Walmart just after 4 p.m. Thursday despite his family’s warnings that his plan would provoke fear after the El Paso massacre, court documents say. The man used his cellphone to record himself entering the Walmart’s front entrance and then headed toward the building’s southeast corner, according to police. On his right hip was another weapon besides his AR-style rifle: a semiautomatic handgun loaded with one round in its chamber. Police say he had more than 100 rounds of ammunition.' https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/08/10/armed-man-who-sowed-panic-walmart-said-he-was-testing-his-nd-amendment-rights-police-say/ Seriously, where is the NRA and its programs when you need them? Oops, being cut back - 'Amid last year’s financial crunch, the organization cut funds for gun training, a key purpose spelled out in the NRA charter. Spending for educating gun owners about safety and marksmanship dropped by nearly a quarter from 2017 to 2018, from $42.6 million to $32.7 million.' https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-nras-finances-deepening-debt-increased-spending-on-legal-fees--and-cuts-to-gun-training/2019/06/14/ac9dc488-8e30-11e9-b08e-cfd89bd36d4e_story.html

You start out talking about an actual machine gun which nobody uses to hunt, and go to "And I can never remember anybody in my life when growing up in the U.S. who ever went hunting deer (or took out groundhogs) that thought an assault rifle was a proper tool for hunting." Groundhogs would be fine, and maybe small to mid size deer - maybe large ones, for an AR 15. It's really to light of a rifle for wild boars - the actual topic. Go with a 30-30 that has 50% more power. You are daemonizing a weapon that's underpowered for what you propose and seem to think the opposite. God help us if anyone showed you a .22. The point is that an AR 15 is LESS powerful than the weapons hunters use. Using one is dumb because it's UNDER powered.

I started out talking about assault weaponry, then reference AK47s or M16s, neither of which I would consider machine guns. It is true that the Heckler & Koch MP7 is a submachine gun, but that was included for absurdity.

'It's really to light of a rifle for wild boars - the actual topic.'

The one I started, by the way, but please, do keep telling me what I meant.

' You are daemonizing a weapon'

I am not demonizing a weapon - I'm mocking the idea that an assault rifle is good for hunting, at least when compared to its abilities regarding combat. An opinion which is definitely completely mainstream among German hunters, or among the people who hunted I grew up with 4 decades ago.

'God help us if anyone showed you a .22. '

What do you think I learned to shoot with in 6th grade?

However, I suspect we are talking past each other basically - that tweet was hilarious (though a guy walking into a store with a chambered round is anything but hilarious), and fit into the idea 'Everyone thinks their hogs are the special ones.'

"What do you think I learned to shoot with in 6th grade?"

Your mouth.

January 2019 in Louisiana, my son killed a wild boar - one shot from his brother's night scooped M-4/.223 soft point bullet. They had a digital camera through the scope: it's on film. Dropped like it was hit by lightning.

If one sets the reel's drag right and plays it for real, one can catch a 10 lb. bass on 4 lb. test line.

One (if one is capable) can kill with a pea shooter. If you hit it right, I would not use it for elk, moose or grizzly bears. Otherwise, the .223 cal. is as good as any round, especially in the heavily-wooded NE where shots are close in. I used to carry a .30/06 for deer; then a .223; now a 30/30 lever action. The 30/30 doesn't kick much more than the .223, and the rifle is very light. The .30/06 is a beast on my 69 year-old shoulder.

True story: There I was in September 2015 in Pitkin, Louisiana at a rental house (and 10 acres) my son had recently moved into. The owner's nephew and former tenant rolled (pick-up of course) in the yard and asked if it was OK to field dress the feral pig they had killed with a .22 cal. (long rifle) pistol - ran a round up the nasal cavity in to the brain - dead as a door nail. Luck. Otherwise, the round would not have passed through the inch-thick hide.

Free people don't need clockwork or the state telling them what they can and cannot have.

Australia began as a penal colony and reverted to such when the state disarmed the convicts.

My father was rabbit shooting when a boar walked in front of his vehicle so he shot it with a .22 rimfire and it dropped. His friend was amazed at how he pull that off a single shot using a round suitable for rabbits. It was then my father, being young and foolish, made the mistake of going to inspect his handiwork and the boar got up an attacked him. He managed to get the door of the pick up truck between him and the shot pig and finished it by shooting over the door with the .22 rifle.

And yes, you can tell Australia is definitely a penal colony now by how our murder rate is less than one fourth that of the United States. We're such criminals we leave people alive so we can rob them again.

Initial reaction: Amused by those silly people. Later: The endless homogenization of global culture is ugly. More and more over the decades it seems everywhere there is basically the same hotels, restaurants, and art. My favorite organic coffee from Peru always had a hint of the fish used in the fertilizer soil to grow it. Now it tastes like coffee from anywhere and everywhere -- boring and uninteresting. My favorite cigars from Nicaraugua always smelled of horse farms, so I looked it up and it turned out it's the place in the world where working horses are still used a lot. This last batch from there? Just like cigars from anywhere and everywhere. It used to be called by some the Howard Johnson's problem after that hotel chain -- all cultures were blending together and you could find a HoJo where ever you might go. It's been going on a long time and I'm old enough to remember how much has changed. So you know what? If Australians want Australian pig meat to taste like Australian pig meat, I'm more than fine with that. (Though I suspect at the most proximate-cause level the restriction is just mostly just people trying to protect their businesses.)

Another job American hogs can’t do.

Danish hogs might be more tasty.

Australian commitment to restraint of biodiversity can be a bit capricious. They chased off Johnny Depp's dogs, but allowed the unwashed, germ-ridden Depp himself free movement around the country.

Australia is not unique in this issue. At the airport in Buenos Aires there are signs reminding people that bull semen importation is illegal. Producers of many products in many nations try to limit competition via restrictive laws that affect very similar products. This is the purpose of these semen laws and copyright, patent, and trademark; to give people close to the local government monopoly power. This is done to protect the consumer, of course, and to encourage local production. That it allows monopoly rent extraction is just a side effect.

Part of the issue is that sellers of animal semen pay for long term studies showing that their line results in better results. Just as plant breeders have intellectual property protection for their varieties, I would think that animal breeders likely do as well.

If you want to have investment in plant or animal genetics, you need and often have, patent and other IP protection. https://www.wipo.int/edocs/pubdocs/en/wipo_pub_947_3.pdf

Its a free rider/IP issue as well.

By the way, Australia does import a lot of human semen from the US.


It is legally uncertain what responsibilities a sperm donor may have towards their offspring, so donors are rare in Australia. (Which is odd, because you can get it for free down at the Norville Pub.)

“a selfish act” that could cripple an entire industry.

Like, how?

Something about Mary...

What a garbage law. And yet they tell us wanting to preserve the Aryan race is "irrational."

Probably the most cost effective way of saving Aryan lives would be to eliminate waterborne disease in India. I recommend all people interested in preserving Aryans contribute to this good cause.

True story. A blood relative was visiting Germany in the 1980s. A neighbor with relatives also in Germany asked the visiting couple to bring boar semen back to the U.S. Just prior to the return flight the wife was given a vile of boar semen and it was taped to the inside of her arm to keep warm. The husband must have appeared to be a bit nervous and was pulled out of line and searched by the German export authorities. Of course they found nothing. The calm collective wife was met upon arrival to the U.S. by the neighbor and quickly inseminated three sows. Two of the three sows delivered piglets.

An unfair advantage? No. An illegal advantage? Yes.

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