Category: Education
The market speaks
Should Oregon fund college through equity?
Here is the latest proposal, which seems to stand a chance of actually happening:
This week, the Oregon Legislature approved a plan that could allow students to attend state colleges without paying tuition or taking out traditional loans. Instead, they would commit a small percentage of their future incomes to repaying the state; those who earn very little would pay very little.
I’m all for this as an experiment, but I’m not sure how effective it will be. Here is one more detail:
The plan’s supporters have estimated that for it to work, the state would have to take about 3 percent of a former student’s earnings for 20 years, in the case of someone who earned a bachelor’s degree.
Twenty years is a long time and I fear the implied selection mechanism embedded in that time horizon. At the margin I would expect this to attract people who don’t have a vivid mental image of the distant future. Furthermore the terms of the program discriminate against those who expect high earnings or for that matter those who expect to finish. In other words, the drop out rate of the marginal students here may be relatively high. And what are the payback terms for dropouts? Do they get off scot free? Pay proportionately for what they finished? Pay much much less to reflect their lower expected wages? The six-year graduation rate at Oregon State is only about 61%. This is not a small question.
Funding education through debt or through family-based crowd-sourcing may serve up a better mix of students. By the way, this source says the repayment period is over 24 years, not 20. Again, keep in mind that “the rate of return for the marginal student” is not the same as the “rate of return for the marginal student who would be attracted by these terms.”
And is this a better or worse deal for the median student at say Oregon State? If most students take this offer, I fear that the university’s incentive to improve the quality of education will not stay intact at the margin. I do understand there is a version of this plan where the tuition revenue simply comes from a state program rather than from the student, but more likely than not Oregon would end up with a “complex formula” which weakens the incentives of the institutions at the relevant margin. (On the state side of the equation, there is an incentive to conserve on cash and make the marginal tuition “free,” rather than pay the same amount of cash to the school the student would have paid.) Alternatively, if most students do not take this offer, one has to wonder what is wrong with it and adjust one’s estimate of the adverse selection problem accordingly.
Let’s assume, for the purposes of argument, that the 3% future “tax” won’t hurt labor supply at all. How is this program so different from moving to the European model, where higher education is free or near-free and general taxes on the population are higher? Yet the European systems of higher education are generally worse than those in America, so why should we be trying to copy them or move toward them? If anything, they are trying to move closer to American models.
At the end of the day, I am willing to let Oregon make a likely mistake to find out how this works. Go ahead guys, do it, we are all watching.
I thank several loyal MR readers for the pointer.
Differential Pricing in University Education
Traditionally universities have charged every student the same tuition/price regardless of major. Under budget pressure, however, differential pricing is becoming more common. Differential pricing is tending to reduce the peculiar cross-subsidies that currently exist as pointed out in a new working paper by Kevin Stange (earlier version):
Higher education in the United States is heavily subsidized, both through direct support for institutions by state governments and private donors, and through federal and state support
directly to students. There are also substantial differences in the extent of subsidization across
institutions and sectors, with students at selective private institutions more heavily subsidized
than those at less selective institutions(Winston 1999). Less commonly noticed, however, is that
there are also large cross-subsidies between students within the same institutions due to the
conventional practice of charging similar tuition fees to all undergraduate students regardless of
the cost of instructing them. The cost of instruction differs tremendously between upper and
lower division coursework and across programs even within institutions. For instance, recent
analysis of cost data from four large state post-secondary systems (Florida, Illinois, New York‐
SUNY, and Ohio) indicated that upper division instruction costs approximately 40% more per
credit hour than lower division instruction, and that upper-division engineering, physical science,
and visual/performing art was approximately 40% more costly than the least costly majors
(SHEEO, 2010). In fact, an earlier but more extensive cost study found that more than three-fourths of the variance in instructional cost across institutions is explained by the disciplinary
mix within an institution (U.S. Department of Education 2003). The consequence is that lower division students subsidize upper-division students and students in costly majors are subsidized
by those in less expensive ones.This pattern of cross-subsidization generally runs counter to differences in post-schooling
earnings and ability to pay. Lower division includes many students who eventually drop out,
while students that have advanced to upper division are more likely to graduate and earn more.
Engineering, science, and business majors tend to earn more and have higher returns than
education and humanities majors, even after controlling for differential selection of major by
ability (Arcidiacono 2004).
I have argued for targeting education subsidies to the majors that are most likely to have the greatest positive spillovers. Differential pricing moves prices closer to costs which opens up the possibility for more rational pricing but notice that it can in some cases move prices away from optimal subsidy levels.
Hat tip: Dubner at Freakonomics.
Why are there not more science majors?
There is a new paper (pdf) by Ralph Stinebrickner and Todd R. Stinebrickner on this topic, and here is their bottom line conclusion:
We find that students enter school quite optimistic/interested about obtaining a science degree, but that relatively few students end up graduating with a science degree. The substantial overoptimism about completing a degree in science can be attributed largely to students beginning school with misperceptions about their ability to perform well academically in science.
What is the most ridiculous thing someone has ever tried to convince you of?
Here is a Quora forum on that topic, with some good answers.
I liked this response by Shivang Agarwal:
That Windows is trying to find a solution to the problem just occurred.
*World War Z*
I was surprised how serious a movie it is and also by how deeply politically incorrect it is, including on “third rail” issues such as immigration, ethnic conflict, North Korean totalitarianism, American urban decay as exemplified by Newark, gun control, Latino-Black relations, songs of peace, and the Middle East. Here is one (incomplete) discussion of the Middle East angle, from the AP, republished in el-Arabiya (here is a more detailed but less responsible take on the matter, by a sociology professor and Israeli, spoilers throughout).
The movie is set up to show sympathy for the “Spartan” regimes and to have a message which is deeply historically pessimistic and might broadly be called Old School Conservative, informed by the debates on martial virtue from pre-Christian antiquity. But they recut the final segment of the movie and changed the ending altogether, presumably because post-Christian test audiences and film executives didn’t like it. Here is one discussion of the originally planned finale. It sounds good to me. The actual movie as it was released reverts to a Christian ending of sorts. My preferred denouement would have relied on the idea of an asymptomatic carrier or two, go see it and figure out the rest yourself.
By the way, for all the chances taken by the film makers, they were unwilling to offend the government of China (see the first link), in part because you cannot trick them easily with subtle, veiled references. Such tomfoolery works only on Americans — critics included — which I suppose suggests a lesson of its own.
Here is a Times of Israel review of the movie, interesting throughout, and it notes that the Israel scenes are simply translated to “the Middle East” for Turkish audiences.
A good film, I liked it. How many other movies offer commentary on Thucydides, Exodus, Gush-Shalom, Lawrence Dennis, and George Romero, all rolled into one?
Let’s detect and undo one of the most popular intellectual fallacies ever
As a case in point, consider my recent post arguing that Andrew Sullivan is the most influential public intellectual of the last twenty-five years. Such a claim will raise the status of Sullivan. While I am happy to see his status raised, that is not my point. My point is merely that he has been very influential, and in the sense of changing actual real world outcomes, a claim which most other public intellectuals of high status cannot even begin to make. The comments on the post are mostly weak, especially those comments critical of Sullivan. Some people are arguing that Sullivan does not in fact deserve higher status. And that in turn is causing them to misjudge, or fail to judge at all, the claim about his influence.
If you can avoid this fallacy consistently, and unpack the positive claim from any and all implications about changes in status, you will think much better and learn much more. I find also that very smart people are not necessarily more protected against this mode of fallacious reasoning.
Many blogs of course pander to this very fallacy. Why not be more explicit? One could put a post up with the person’s name and photo and simply write: “OK people, let’s argue in the comments whether this person deserves a higher or lower status.” But that would be too explicit, and it would lower the status of the blogger and commentator, so something else is written and the same debate ensues.
Amish arbitrage fact of the day
Eight percent of one sample (n = 112) of Lancaster county Amish have sought medical care in Mexico.
That is from Donald B. Kraybill, Karen M. Johnson-Weiner, and Steven M. Nolt, The Amish, which is an excellent social scientific look at what we outsiders know about Amish communities.
I also learned that the Amish strongly frown on home schooling of children and consider it possible grounds for excommunication. The requirement to use the internet has pushed many Amish out of public school systems, and the Amish are experts at making apprenticeship systems work. Inequality of wealth seems to be rising among the Amish.
Luck, Investment and the One Percent
Jon Chait criticizes Mankiw’s defense of the 1% for focusing on productivity as a reason why the rich earn more:
Mankiw’s essay is a sprawling mess, but it hinges on a few key premises. One is that market wealth reflects a person’s productivity. Higher taxes on the rich, he writes, would take from “the most productive members” of society and give to “society’s less productive citizens,” and he uses “productive” and rich” as synonyms throughout….
But there are lots and lots of ways that a person’s income does not measure his contribution to society. Many of us see them every day. We all know people in our field who earn too much, or too little, because of social connections, or race, or gender, or luck, or willingness to cut ethical corners of one variety or another.
But later in that same article and in a followup he argues that greater productivity is an important explanation for inequality:
Krugman noted (as did I) that more affluent parents spend far more than poor children do on “enrichment expenditures” — “books, computers, high-quality child care, summer camps, private schooling, and other things that promote the capabilities of their children.” (ital added)
Mankiw’s response is that this enrichment spending is all wasted.
…Really — high-quality child care, private schools, camps — it’s all just for fun?…There is, in fact, an enormous amount of research on this very question. And the findings overwhelmingly suggest that nonschool enrichment matters an enormous amount. A huge portion of the achievement gap between poor and nonpoor children is attributable to summer vacation.
The first claim is that the wealthy aren’t more productive than the less wealthy and the latter claim is that they are more productive but that this is unfair. The two claims are in tension (perhaps a synthesis is possible but none is offered). Note also that the two claims have quite different implications. In the former case the rich are lucky and you can tax them without generating large incentive problems. In the latter case the rich have benefited from investment and taxing the benefits is likely to reduce such investment.
Addendum: Mankiw, of course, takes the opposite end of the stick, productive people but unproductive summer camps. Mankiw, however, is not inconsistent as he offers another explanation for productivity, namely earlier developed talents and capabilities possibly even genetic in origin. I don’t want to discuss that issue in this post but here is one relevant earlier post with a bit more here for those interested .
Is the labor market return to higher education finally falling?
Peter Orszag considers that possibility in his recent column. About one in four bartenders has some kind of degree. Orszag draws heavily on this paper by Beaudry and Green and Sand, which postulates falling returns to skill. It’s one of the more interesting pieces written in the last year, but note their model relies heavily on a stock/flow distinction. They consider a world where most of the IT infrastructure already has been built, and so skilled labor has not so much more to do at the margin. This stands in noted contrast to the common belief — which I share — that “IT-souped up smart machines” still have a long way to go and are not a mature technology. You can’t hold that view and also buy into the Beaudry and Green and Sand story, unless you think we have suddenly jumped to a new margin where machines build machines, with little help from humans.
Rather than accepting “falling returns to skill,” I would sooner say that education doesn’t measure true skill as well as it used to.
The more likely scenario is that the variance of the return to having a college education has gone up, and indeed that is what you would expect from a world of rising income inequality. Many people get the degree, yet without learning the skills they need for the modern workplace. In other words, the world of work is changing faster than the world of what we teach (surprise, surprise). The lesser trained students end up driving cabs, if they can work a GPS that is. The lack of skill of those students also raises wage returns for those individuals who a) have the degree, b) are self-taught about the modern workplace, and c) show the personality skills that employers now know to look for. All of a sudden those individuals face less competition and so their wages rise. The high returns stem from blending formal education with their intangibles (there is also more pressure to get an advanced degree to show you are one of the privileged, but that is another story.)
This polarization of returns — among degree holders — explains both why incomes are rising at the top end, and why the rate of dropping out of college is rising too. At some point along the way in the college experience, lots of students realize they won’t be able to “cross the divide,” and the degree alone won’t do it for them. They foresee their future tending bar and act accordingly.
Too many discussions of the returns to education focus on the mean or median and neglect the variance and what is likely a recent increase in that variance.
My new favorite question to ask over lunch
“So, are you a regional thinker?”
If they say no, fail them. If they say yes, ask them to explain. Here is my old favorite question to ask, and therein you find links to the very first question of this kind.
What’s the most intellectual joke you know?
That query is from AskReddit, the link is here, and here are a few of the nominations:
It’s hard to explain puns to kleptomaniacs because they always take things literally.
And:
Jean-Paul Sartre is sitting at a French cafe, revising his draft of Being and Nothingness. He says to the waitress, “I’d like a cup of coffee, please, with no cream.” The waitress replies, “I’m sorry, Monsieur, but we’re out of cream. How about with no milk?”
And:
Werner Heisenberg, Kurt Gödel, and Noam Chomsky walk into a bar. Heisenberg turns to the other two and says, “Clearly this is a joke, but how can we figure out if it’s funny or not?” Gödel replies, “We can’t know that because we’re inside the joke.” Chomsky says, “Of course it’s funny. You’re just telling it wrong.”
I don’t find that latter one funny at all, as they are telling it wrong.
The pointer is from Jodi Ettenberg of Legal Nomads fame.
What are your picks? You get mine every day.
The gravity equation for on-line education
…about 70 percent of students turn to online programs based at colleges within 100 miles of their home.
Here is more.
China story of the day
Hundreds of police eventually cordoned off the school and the local government conceded that “exam supervision had been too strict and some students did not take it well”.
Here is more.
Probably not good news markets in everything
For US$249 a company in the United States is promising to send curious and competitive players of computer games an unusual headset. The device, the company claims, will convert electronic gamers into electronic-gamers. At the touch of a button, the headset will send a surge of electricity through their prefrontal cortex. It promises to increase brain plasticity and make synapses fire faster, to help gamers repel more space invaders and raid more tombs. And, according to the publicity shots on the website, it comes in a choice of red or black.
The company is accepting orders, but says that it will not ship its first headsets to customers until next month. Some are unwilling to wait. Videos on the Internet already show people who have cobbled together their own version with a 9-volt battery and some electrical wire. If you are not fussy about the colour scheme, other online firms already promise to supply the components and instructions you need to make your own. Or you could rummage around in the garage.
Here is more, with further interesting points, via Michelle Dawson.